Slightly straw man approach. Clearly the state needs rapid growth response capacity. Are you saying Volunteers are anti being paid?
Principle works just fine in the armed forces
Vic How would you rate Daniel Andrews' performance as Victorian Premier?
- Thread starter Jascave
- Start date
- Tagged users None
- Status
Slightly straw man approach. Clearly the state needs rapid growth response capacity. Are you saying Volunteers are anti being paid?
Principle works just fine in the armed forces
Mate he was mother Theresa compared to the libs
Navyblues09
Club Legend
No, I'm saying the Union won't allow them and are telling the Government to employ more full time ffs not employ retained/part time ffs.
All I remember of the Election campaign is Daniel Andrews army telling everyone how badly the Liberals were screwing everyone over oh and that the EW contract wasnt worth the paper it was printed on!
- Thread starter
- #2,479
I wouldn't be surprised if the 2018 Victorian election ended up being a hung parliament result, with the Greens, Australian Conservatives, independents and One Nation sharing the balance of power in the Legislative Assembly. And what are the chances of former Liberal MP Geoff Shaw making a political comeback in time for the 2018 election?
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Geoff Shaw ain't coming back.
What Legislative Assembly seats would parties such as the Australian Conservatives and One Nation even be competitive in? You do understand the voting system used in the Legislative Assembly, right?
The current norm seems to be two terms. No more no less
Turnbull shortened his time by going the early election
Turnbull shortened his time by going the early election
Elroo
Premiership Player
- Jul 2, 2014
- 3,993
- 6,808
- AFL Club
- North Melbourne
Another contract awarded for the Metro Rail Tunnel;
http://www.cpbcon.com.au/news-and-media/news/metro-tunnel-project-rail-systems-alliance-rsa/
http://www.cpbcon.com.au/news-and-media/news/metro-tunnel-project-rail-systems-alliance-rsa/
Here is one of the biggest things any State Premier has ever done. And because it is a state doing it and not a territory, it cannot be overturned or overruled.
Yes folks. Victoria's parliament will have a conscience vote later this year on euthanasia.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-21/victoria-assisted-dying-available-2019-report-says/8730346
Yes folks. Victoria's parliament will have a conscience vote later this year on euthanasia.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-21/victoria-assisted-dying-available-2019-report-says/8730346
Religious will hate it
Rationalists will love it
Where will the coalition land?
Rationalists will love it
Where will the coalition land?
- Nov 12, 2014
- 4,965
- 6,718
- AFL Club
- Hawthorn
The minister is David hodgett, what lame sooky comments i mean seriously who is going to pay for the taxis and the ubers? Its like he thinks people never get inconvenienced in their lives. They are 10 times worse than labor was when it comes to being negative. Tbh they are clutching at straws anyway. Andrews has done a crapload for the state which can only be dismissed by relentless negative whinging which the libs have turned into a fine art. Amazed that andrews is actually behind in the polls, just goes to show how influential the herald sun is at manipulating the masses. Either that or the electorate are a bunch of ungrateful turds.
If Dan gets the Voluntary Euthanasia Bill enacted he has my vote for as long as he's in the Parliament.
Navyblues09
Club Legend
So at a time suicide is rising and become a massive problem, we want to make it easier to do?
Let's think about this.
This weekend is the 22nd anniversary of the passing of my grandfather from cancer. I remember what it was like for him. He was racked with pain for the best part of those last 6 months - as the doctors kept pumping him with chemo when all he wanted to do was just go home and pass away. It would take until the week before he passed away before he was allowed to go home. As a then 19yo, it pained me to see this happening.
This is what voluntary euthanasia is all about. It's about letting those racked with terminal pain and illness the opportunity to control their own destiny. It's hardly making suicide easier.
With euthanasia you have to strongly protect against it being the thin edge of the wedge
All too easy to pass off 'it's what he/she would have wanted"
All too easy to pass off 'it's what he/she would have wanted"
GreyWind
Norm Smith Medallist
Hopefully the bill passes. But it will be interesting to see the wording of how they determine eligibility and who has the authority to make decisions.
Absolutely this will be the crux of whether this becomes law or not. There may be opposition to it due to concerns of the implications of its framing and thus like many referendums which seem good in principal do not entice people to support changes when deciding on whether or not it should be law.
GreyWind
Norm Smith Medallist
There's going to be opposition towards euthanasia no matter what though.
I imagine it will be similar to abortions though, something like 2 doctors and a psychiatrist have to all agree that euthanasia is appropriate for that particular person. As in the person fully understands what they are doing and is of sound mind to make decisions.
I also imagine it will only include biomedical illness and disease compared to psychological conditions and mental illness.
I wonder if they will bring in legislation where people can sign legal documents stating in case X happens they want to be euthanised, similar to NFR/DNRs.
F off you arseclown. I watched my father die of cancer 18 years ago and if he could have ended his life when he wanted he would have been saved three months of pain being incapable of talking, eating, moving and wearing nappies the nurses (who he personally knew) had to clean for him as he waited to die.
Watching my Aunties and Uncles fight over the affairs of my grandfather, who's still capable of making decisions mind you, it's damn horrifying.
You can't pick your family.
So in your world, you think euthanasia will mean people will think "Im feeling depressed again, I might go see the doc to see if he'll perscribe me some death"?
You are someone with an opinion with a fundimental misunderstanding of the issue.
My dad has cancer, and while its going alright for now it seems that unless something new happens in the medical field in the coming years, the best he can do is push it back.
When the time comes I'd rather he get to decide if he wants to go out with dignity, or live the final months writing in pain and shitting himself while fully lucid. And if *******s like you impose themselves to deny him that, well... I will be unimpressed.
GreyWind
Norm Smith Medallist
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-...on-end-of-life-choices-daniel-andrews/8740520
Excerpt from the above article:
"An expert panel, chaired by former AMA president Brian Owler, made 66 recommendations to set up a scheme under which a person must be of "sound decision-making capacity" and the condition they are suffering from must be expected to cause death within 12 months.
That condition must be found to be "causing suffering that cannot be relieved in a manner that is tolerable to the person".
Only the patient can initiate a request for assisted dying, and the person must be assessed by two doctors, one which must be an expert in the person's particular illness."
Pretty reasonable to me, there's a bit more in the article along with the final report.
Excerpt from the above article:
"An expert panel, chaired by former AMA president Brian Owler, made 66 recommendations to set up a scheme under which a person must be of "sound decision-making capacity" and the condition they are suffering from must be expected to cause death within 12 months.
That condition must be found to be "causing suffering that cannot be relieved in a manner that is tolerable to the person".
Only the patient can initiate a request for assisted dying, and the person must be assessed by two doctors, one which must be an expert in the person's particular illness."
Pretty reasonable to me, there's a bit more in the article along with the final report.
Is there a way to legally exclude a sliding scale of 'the wedge'?
https://www.google.com.au/amp/www.t...ecomes-first-euthanised-minor-in-belgium/amp/
https://www.google.com.au/amp/www.t...ecomes-first-euthanised-minor-in-belgium/amp/
- Aug 21, 2016
- 15,695
- 24,776
- AFL Club
- Geelong
- Other Teams
- Oldham
CPB Contractors is a division of CIMIC. Andrews will have made this deal contingent on the conditions from his paymasters the CFMEU and AWU. Look forward to a CFMEU statement “This Agreement is consistent with the Fair Work Act and we look forward to the project progressing in a safe and timely manner.”
- Status
