List Mgmt. Gibbs - 2017 Trade Discussions! V2.0

[Eagleboy2011]

SO they want 2 firsts and a 2nd round swap ??

That's utter madness

no its complete madness and WTF.

 

[jbanger]

Picks 10, 12 and 16 for Paul Kelly.

Coolio.

Paul Kelly & Coolio should do a song together

 

[DD#23]

What you don't want is to leave yourself without any youth. You miss a few first rounds and you had better be trading in the right age players.

So giving away your ONLY first round pick is a much bigger risk than giving away one / keeping one.

We have three first round players coming through in 2018 - Milera, Gallucci, Doedee - we are playing this pretty well imo. I wouldn't care if we had no first rounders in 2017 draft.

4 first rounders in two years is an opportunity that doesn't come around often. It's a chance to build the core of a great team that can be strong over the next 10 years (under Matt Crouch perhaps...).

frankly I'm not convinced our current squad is worth sacrificing that for. Let's face it, Gibbs wouldn't have made a difference, and he won't make a difference next year either - we'd barely be breaking even with the loss of Smith and we've got Lever to cover as well. Neither of which will even matter if Tex can't get his foot right, lead by example, and mend a few of our side's pea-hearts.

call me cynical if you like, but IMO that's an honest appraisal. We failed this year in the exact same way we've failed in previous years, it just happened a couple of weeks later. Time to swallow some pride and refresh the list lest we follow in the Eagles post-2015 footsteps.

 

[Bay62]

Crack pipe down.

You know full well that’s not true

The "and a player" bit or the McGovern bit?

 

[WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot]

Screw you for a contracted player at the peak of his powers while you desperately need experienced bodies to challenge for the flag again? Say it ain't so!?

29yo players are generally not at the peak of their powers. If he's not even making the AA squad at his supposed "peak" then he's not worth 2 x 1st rounders and a 2nd rounder.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

lol another trade season wasted on Carlton. Well at least we got a good deal for Lever.

 

[Thylacinus]

Their 2nd rounder shouldn't be too far from our first.

Sacking a bloke who just a week ago got 2 first rounders after everyone thought we were mad, plus pick 39 for a guy who hasn't played a game
....... glad you're not in charge

Carlton, if they have a good run with injuries, may do a lot better next year than some expect. They have some pretty exciting talent coming through.

 

[hey shorty]

Screw you for a contracted player at the peak of his powers while you desperately need experienced bodies to challenge for the flag again? Say it ain't so!?

Peak of his powers lol.

He wants to live in Adelaide, and he came to us. In fact your club came to us.

 

[GROTTO]

29yo players are generally not at the peak of their powers. If he's not even making the AA squad at his supposed "peak" then he's not worth 2 x 1st rounders and a 2nd rounder.

+1

He has at best 2 years left in him. We have paid a hefty price for him. I feel its the wrong move.

FFS should have grabbed Rocky for free and sat on our 1sts.

 

[goyoucrows]

The Herald Sun understands that Carlton was set to send its superstar midfielder as well as its 2018 second-round selection to the Crows.

In return the Blues would net pick No.10 and Adelaide’s 2018 first-round selection.

The Blues also believed Adelaide’s 2018 second-round selection would be sent back. Adelaide did not believe that formed part of the deal.

For those that can't get past the Herald Sun pay wall.

Wow. This is the biggest professional sporting league in our country, right?

It sounds like 2 blokes talking about trading a car for a PlayStation and some other s**t and arguing over what s**t they did and didn't offer.

Do we need to get the cards or with big words on them and hand them around and play swapsies?

 

[Sanders]

The "and a player" bit or the McGovern bit?

Carlton wanted 2 firsts or a first +cc/gov

We offered effectively 1st & 3rd / 1st + Jake jelly

Andrew McKay came out and said if we’d gone to first & second they’d have had plenty to think about but we made it easy to turn down

 

[hey shorty]

Carlton, if they have a good run with injuries, may do a lot better next year than some expect. They have some pretty exciting talent coming through.

Their best players are still their oldest, they had a relatively good run this year and Matt Wright still finished top 3 in their goal kicking.

They're garbage

 

[goyoucrows]

Don’t really care what we do as long as we keep 10 and both out 1st rounders next yr.

5AA saying we will leave the trade period not having any 1st rounder for the draft.

 

[Aaron929]

That makes no sense. That deal would see us give up 2 firsts and a second round pick for 29yo Gibbs and something like pick 20 in 2018. In what world is that going to happen?

If this is the deal which apparently it is which is ridiculous all of our plans clearly fell through so were trying to do something.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

5AA saying we will leave the trade period not having any 1st rounder for the draft.

Did our picks suddenly vanish? What are they on about?

 

[goyoucrows]

Could be Daniel Robinson, who requested a trade about a week ago

That's the one... Daniel Robinson apparently coming our way, due to Francou.

 

[Bicks]

SOS doing his campaigner act again...

 

[Sanders]

We didn't have 4 first rounders last year.

This is such a nonsensical argument

 

[GROTTO]

4 first rounders in two years is an opportunity that doesn't come around often. It's a chance to build the core of a great team that can be strong over the next 10 years (under Matt Crouch perhaps...).

frankly I'm not convinced our current squad is worth sacrificing that for. Let's face it, Gibbs wouldn't have made a difference, and he won't make a difference next year either - we'd barely be breaking even with the loss of Smith and we've got Lever to cover as well. Neither of which will even matter if Tex can't get his foot right, lead by example, and mend a few of our side's pea-hearts.

call me cynical if you like, but IMO that's an honest appraisal. We failed this year in the exact same way we've failed in previous years, it just happened a couple of weeks later. Time to swallow some pride and refresh the list lest we follow in the Eagles post-2015 footsteps.

What concerns me is the hope that a lot of posters have in Milera, Gallucci, Doedee who have yet to show any "great" signs of dominating in our team next year.

Getting Gibbs is great, but not at the cost of two 10+ year players potentially. Gibbs has a limited shelf life. Make no mistake inside 3 years and he is into a decline, thats the likely reality based on AFL players hitting 30+.

 

[Pea Nut]

Did our picks suddenly vanish? What are they on about?

That we will trade them for players.

 

[hey shorty]

+1

He has at best 2 years left in him. We have paid a hefty price for him. I feel its the wrong move.

FFS should have grabbed Rocky for free and sat on our 1sts.

I reckon he's a guy who will play decent footy into his 30s. Not Sam Mitchell obviously but I reckon he has 3-4 good years especially with a youngish midfield coming into their peak.

 

[Aaron929]

Looks like it might fall through again.

 

[Bay62]

Wow. This is the biggest professional sporting league in our country, right?

It sounds like 2 blokes talking about trading a car for a PlayStation and some other s**t and arguing over what s**t they did and didn't offer.

Do we need to get the cards or with big words on them and hand them around and play swapsies?

Agreed. If this is true - totally amateur hour. Or Carlton trying to squeeze us at the death

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

SO they want 2 firsts and a 2nd round swap ??

That's utter madness

That trade makes no sense. Particularly if pick 10 is involved.

 

[jo172]

I reckon he's a guy who will play decent footy into his 30s. Not Sam Mitchell obviously but I reckon he has 3-4 good years especially with a youngish midfield coming into their peak.

Agree, particularly given he'd have Rory/Crouch bros to do the heavy lifting for him