Play Nice 45th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 3

[GreyCrow]

Drain the swamp

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Just remembered they lost the Alabama senate seat and laughed out loud. All the winning

 

[bourbons]

"The administration supports the FCC's efforts and at the same time the White House certainly has and always will support a free and fair internet," White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-...ors-ditch-rules-as-legal-battles-loom/9261172

 

[Ned_Flanders]

This will fall over when trump finds out he will have to start paying for pornhub

 

[Happy Mastenator]

It really just a race at this stage. How much can the give away to big corporations and the rich before they lose either the senate or the house.

 

[Seeds]

Yet again we see the narcissism control him , so predictable it's downright boring TBH
Must be seen to be a winner , cannot let anything slide or concede a mistake or error of judgement.
It just makes him look like a dick to be honest..............

more then a dick. it suggests he has serious mental health problems and shouldnt even be allowed to run his company let alone a country.

 

[Ripper]

FCC just repealed net neutrality. It is official, Trump is nothing but a shill for the top end of town.

Exactly the opposite." Net Neutrality" is finest Orwellian speak.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/08/roger-stone-time-for-real-net-neutrality/

The singular reason why this-so called “Net Neutrality” came to the forefront is because then President Barack Obama ordered it. And who was prodding Obama to do so? Google. Microsoft. Facebook. Twitter. Amazon.

 

[PalaceGun]

The Daily Caller.

Nice one, Drip...

 

[GuruJane]

2017 Special Counsel Investigation does not = previous FBI investigation.

???? You don't seem to be aware that the FBI Russian investigation had been going for nearly 12 months before Mueller got involved.

You really think Mueller would have been appointed if team Trump hadn't spent the first half of 2017 constantly throwing up all over themselves under questioning and Trump hadn't asked Comey to go easy on Flynn before firing him? Current situation is largely of his own making.

All the indictments Mueller's FBI have brought so far have related solely to events that took place under the original investigation - Flynn and Papadopoulos for lying to the FBI - interestingly within 3 days of each other on January 24 and January 27 2017 - and for Manafort and Gates events dating back to 2006.
Muellers investigation may have turned up extra evidence on Manafort's money laundering activities but that's just about it. So far.

btw Trump said in the interview with Lester Holt that at the time he realised firing Comey might lengthen the investigation but he felt he "had to do the right thing by the American people." He made no threats against the investigation so the obstruction of justice argument doesn't run with the firing - not in that interview.

 

[Ripper]

The Daily Caller.

Nice one, Drip...

Do you want to argue the points ?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/larryd...-as-the-enemy-of-net-neutrality/#6d1e1efc438e

For technology companies here in Silicon Valley and across the Internet ecosystem, Pai’s appointment is very good news. He favors a return to the bi-partisan policy of light-touch regulation established in the early days of the commercial Internet—policies that have made possible the convergence of networks, media and technologies on the single open Internet standard. His FCC is likely to be consistent, professional, and predictable.

But to judge from the vast majority of media postings about Pai’s promotion to FCC Chairman, it’s—once again--the end of the world as we know it.

 

[PalaceGun]

Not opening a link from the Daily Caller.

 

[Satan]

Donnie happy rupert did not sell fox news to the mouse house. Wonder why

 

[ep2018]

I'm sure when this repulsion is challenged in the senate there will be more than a few Republicans with no horse in the race who will want to vote against it to increase their reelection odds in 2018. This has also been made easier now that only two republicans need to defect. Which I suspect will happen.

 

[Showbags]

Exactly the opposite." Net Neutrality" is finest Orwellian speak.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/08/roger-stone-time-for-real-net-neutrality/

This ridiculous decision, which is supported by only 17% of people in a recent poll, just gives all the power to the big ISP's (under the guise of "free markets").

Basically what this move allows is for ISP's to move to a model similar to cable news, where they can sell their service in bundles (as Fox does for sports, news, movies etc). It gives more power to ISP's to demand bribes from bigger content providers (while basically ******* over smaller providers who can't afford to pay their bribes for better speeds).

Ajit Pai is also the former lawyer for Verizon. Guess who this move chiefly benefits? You guessed it, Verizon. Swamp=drained.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

This ridiculous decision, which is supported by only 17% of people in a recent poll, just gives all the power to the big ISP's (under the guise of "free markets").

Basically what this move allows is for ISP's to move to a model similar to cable news, where they can sell their service in bundles (as Fox does for sports, news, movies etc). It gives more power to ISP's to demand bribes from bigger content providers (while basically ******* over smaller providers who can't afford to pay their bribes for better speeds).

Ajit Pai is also the former lawyer for Verizon. Guess who this move chiefly benefits? You guessed it, Verizon. Swamp=drained.

But an FBI agent sent text messages bagging out trump, sanders, holder, Clinton etc so he can't be impartial and the entire mueller investigation must be ended...

 

[bourbons]

Exactly the opposite." Net Neutrality" is finest Orwellian speak.

The singular reason why this-so called “Net Neutrality” came to the forefront is because then President Barack Obama ordered it. And who was prodding Obama to do so? Google. Microsoft. Facebook. Twitter. Amazon.

Right. Because they didn't want the possibility of their services and content being throttled.

Whats the issue?

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Jesus. Net neutrality was codified by obama but had been in place from the start. Winding back the protections is a massive change

 

[bourbons]

???? You don't seem to be aware that the FBI Russian investigation had been going for nearly 12 months before Mueller got involved.



All the indictments Mueller's FBI have brought so far have related solely to events that took place under the original investigation - Flynn and Papadopoulos for lying to the FBI - interestingly within 3 days of each other on January 24 and January 27 2017 - and for Manafort and Yates events dating back to 2006.
Muellers investigation may have turned up extra evidence on Manafort's money laundering activities but that's just about it. So far.

btw Trump said in the interview with Lester Holt that at the time he realised firing Comey might lengthen the investigation but he felt he "had to do the right thing by the American people." He made no threats against the investigation so the obstruction of justice argument doesn't run with the firing - not in that interview.

Your orginal point was that the investigation should be discredited because it was based on a dossier paid for by an American political party.

Matter of opinion of course, but I'd say its fairly evident if there was no previous FBI investigation for Mueller to take over, a SC investigation would have been launched all the same considering team Trump's antics in the first half of this year. Don't remember hearing anything about the dossier being used as rationale.

To try to characterise the totality of the current investigation as stemming from the dossier is disingenuous in the extreme.

 

[happy_eagle]

Have any ISP's gone on the record and said how they might change operations after the change to Net Neutrality
I feel as though a lot of the arguments have been "companies could do this" or "it would allow them to do this"

 

[Ripper]

Seems all good to me. Don't fix what isn't broken.

http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2017/db1128/DOC-347980A1.pdf

First: what will the plan do?

When you cut through the legal terms and technical jargon, it’s very simple. The plan to restore Internet freedom will bring back the same legal framework that was governing the Internet three years ago today and that has governed the Internet for most of its existence.

Let me repeat this point. The plan will bring back the same framework that governed the Internet for most of its existence. If you’ve been reading some of the media coverage about the plan, this might be news to you. After all, returning to the legal framework for Internet regulation that was in place three years ago today doesn’t sound like “destroying the Internet” or “ending the Internet as we know it.” And it certainly isn’t good clickbait. But facts are stubborn things.

The results have been bad for consumers. The first negative consumer impact is less
infrastructure investment. The top complaint consumers have about the Internet is not and has never been that their ISP is doing things like blocking content; it’s that they don’t have enough access and competition. Ironically, Title II has made that concern even worse by reducing investment in building and maintaining high-speed networks. In the two years of the Title II era, broadband network investment declined by $3.6 billion—or more than 5%. Notably, this is the first time that such investment has declined outside of a recession in the Internet era.

 

[GuruJane]

Your orginal point was that the investigation should be discredited because it was based on a dossier paid for by an American political party.

Indeed so. It is my opinion that all roads lead back to the dirty dossier, commissioned and paid off to foreign intelligence sources of an "enemy" power by the establishment political party of the Left for the sole purpose of bringing down the opposing candidate for the presidency.
This is unique in US politics to my knowledge.

Matter of opinion of course, but I'd say its fairly evident if there was no previous FBI investigation for Mueller to take over, a SC investigation would have been launched all the same considering team Trump's antics in the first half of this year. Don't remember hearing anything about the dossier being used as rationale.
To try to characterise the totality of the current investigation as stemming from the dossier is disingenuous in the extreme.

Fusion GP and Christopher Steele both made several attempts to bring the dossier to public notice during the campaign itself with only limited success. This was because the media couldn't verify the dossiers claims itself, were skeptical as to their veracity and mostly thinking Clinton was going to win easily..
As consequence, in response to the shock of Trump's victory, on Friday January 6, 2017, Comey and others give president elect Trump his first full security briefing.
Comey stays back to hand Trump copy of dossier and briefs him on contents including the Golden Showers story.
Almost immediately the Washington Post CNN etc are running the story from leaks Trump asasumes come from his (as president) intelligence people and BuzzFeed has the link to the document.
That's how Comey and intelligence services demonstrated how the dossier was so crucial to their investigation. Probably wouldn't have happened without it.

 

[Ripper]

Your orginal point was that the investigation should be discredited because it was based on a dossier paid for by an American political party.

Is that the "insurance" policy we are talking about? I'd get up to speed (may involve non MSN sources )if I were you blokes don't want to look increasingly silly.
I's starting to walk like a duck.

♦Release #4 was information that Deputy Bruce Ohr’s wife, Nellie Ohr, was an actual contract employee of Fusion GPS, and was hired by F-GPS specifically to work on opposition research against candidate Donald Trump. Both Bruce Ohr and Nellie Ohr are attached to the origin of the Christopher Steele Russian Dossier.

♦Release #5 was the specific communication between FBI Agent Strzok and FBI Attorney Page. The 10,000 text messages that included evidence of them both meeting with Asst. FBI Director Andrew McCabe to discuss the “insurance policy” against candidate Donald Trump in August of 2016.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Indeed so. It is my opinion that all roads lead back to the dirty dossier, commissioned and paid off to foreign intelligence sources of an "enemy" power by the establishment political party of the Left for the sole purpose of bringing down the opposing candidate for the presidency.
This is unique in US politics to my knowledge.


Fusion GP and Christopher Steele both made several attempts to bring the dossier to public notice during the campaign itself with only limited success. This was because the media couldn't verify the dossiers claims itself, were skeptical as to their veracity and mostly thinking Clinton was going to win easily..
As consequence, in response to the shock of Trump's victory, on Friday January 6, 2017, Comey and others give president elect Trump his first full security briefing.
Comey stays back to hand Trump copy of dossier and briefs him on contents including the Golden Showers story.
Almost immediately the Washington Post CNN etc are running the story and BuzzFeed has the link to the document.
That's how Comey and intelligence services demonstrated how the dossier was so crucial to their investigation. Probably wouldn't have happened without it.

You are so full of s**t.

You realize the Russian links were known separately to any dossier findings. Most of this stuff was on the public record, and pretty obvious once Podesta got hacked and a million Russian trolls got involved.

Mueller will charge based on evidence. The dossier is not evidence. So don't worry about it. if there's no wrong doing trump will be fine!

 

[Chicago1]

I'll bet Omarosa might want to think about these words again:



LOL

 

[Boxhead_31]

This will fall over when trump finds out he will have to start paying for pornhub

Ted Cruz doesn't like this