Moved Thread Toby vs Eddie...who would you pick?

[Cdog71]

We all heard it, Toby Greene, six year deal till he's 31 somewhere between 800 thou and a mill.
So one of the highest paid in the most talent laden team.
I read a post in another thread "I'd take Greene over Betts in a heartbeat" and I got to thinking.
So...
Who would you rather play for your club and on the field playing for the premiership?

I present the following for your consideration:

Eddie Betts
Arguably the greatest forward pocket in the history of the game.

Toby Greene
Arguably the biggest d***head of the modern era.

Eddie, turns up at Carlton pick 3 2004, 5 foot 9 weighs less than 70kilo.
Couldn't read and drank too much
(Eddie has spoken publicly about this)
2010 earns himself a four hr sit down at the cop shop for being drunk in the city but still manages to make it to the club party on the yacht...respec. Cops a 10 thou fine.
2013 not a great year, broke his jaw got suspended for three but kicked five goals in two finals.
He decided to go home to Adelaide reportedly for 2 mill over four years.
Carlton didn't match the offer.
Career
Club leading goal kicker
2010,2012,2014,2015,2016,2017
AA
2015,2016,2017
I can't think of a player more universally liked than him.

Toby Greene ( I'll try and keep this short)
Foundation player for GWS
Pick 11 2011
2012
Nominated for rising star but ineligible because off the ball bump
2014
Club suspension for drinking whilst injured, also while injured managed to get charged with assault with a weapon and assault by..kicking.
Toby was out injured because of an ankle injury.
Club fined him 5 thou.
Toby and his management publicly stated they would contest the decision but seemed to have a change of heart shortly after.
2015
Charged with spitting.
Toby denied the allegations but didn't contest the charge.
2017
Isaac Heeney head butt.
Snotted the smallest player in the comp like some 45 yr old in the magoo's and suspended for two.
Booted Dalehouse in the face while collecting a handpass.
Suspended for two for jumperpunching .
Two other close calls against seperate Port players.
Career
Club leading goal kicker
2016
AA
2016.

Last year GWS missed a home final by 4.1%points, got thumped by Adelaide then thumped by Richmond.
While Toby was suspended they lost to St kilda and just scraped home against the pies by three points.
The captain has come out and said they love it how Toby plays on the edge.
I wonder how that conversation would have gone if it had of been with Cameron Ling, Luke Hodge or McVeigh.
Anyways...
Who would you pick to be part of your team playing on Grand Final day?
I'd pick Eddie, I reckon he'd make it a better club and clubs win premierships.

 

[iBeng]

What we need is a forum for these kind of threads.

Oh wait!

> https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/forums/polls-board.92/

 

[Cdog71]

What we need is a forum for these kind of threads.

Oh wait!

> https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/forums/polls-board.92/

Ok
If it's in the wrong spot, my bad.
I'm sure the mods will sort it.

 

[Juddernaut08]

Would take Eddie for this year.

Would take Toby for future, including next year.

This is footballing ability only.

As a character/locker-room presence/mentor...obviously no contest.

 

[PumpyChowdown]

W

Eddie, turns up at Carlton pick 3 2004, 5 foot 9 weighs less than 70kilo.

Eddie was pick 3 in the 2004 Pre-Season draft. Was a very speculative pick.

FWIW - Eddie coz I love him. Still.

 

[BallaratBulldog]

Eddie Betts, hardly a contest.

But maybe in five years that would change.

 

[Cdog71]

Eddie was pick 3 in the 2004 Pre-Season draft. Was a very speculative pick.

FWIW - Eddie coz I love him. Still.

Your right..

 

[Cdog71]

Greene is right up Hodge’s alley

Dunno if hodge would be that happy with him getting rubbed out for off the ball stuff

 

[1990crow]

Greene will never be as good as Eddie has been. But Greene will be better than Eddie from sometime next year going forward I think - age catches everyone.

 

[Back One Out]

Greene

It seems some people don't quite realise just how good he is.

Gun midfielder, gun forward

Eddiebetts is a great goal kicker, but he is a finisher, not an instigator
And as good as he has been.. He has not played very well in finals.

 

[Cdog71]

Greene

It seems some people don't quite realise just how good he is.

He's very good overhead and there aren't many games he doesn't score.
But there's a good argument he cost em a home final cause he loses his cool to often and let's the team down and it hurts the club.
Purting your stops in someone's face probably won't win the teams most courageous award

 

[Cdog71]

Yes purting...

whatever that means

 

[Mofra]

What do you want him for?

In the FP - Betts easily
Up the field - Greene, comfortably

 

[raymond35]

Greene. The guy is a gun footballer and i certainly don't have an irrational hatred of him like some people.
* discreetly points in direction of OP *

 

[schmuttt]

Greene for me.

 

[PowerForGood]

Who would you pick for GF day 2018? Either, both are guns.

 

[Richo83]

Greene

It seems some people don't quite realise just how good he is.

Gun midfielder, gun forward

Eddiebetts is a great goal kicker, but he is a finisher, not an instigator
And as good as he has been.. He has not played very well in finals.

Betts' finals form does worry me, it's very hot or cold. Greene hasn't been good either in finals, his games against Richmond and Adelaide were crap.

 

[Cdog71]

Greene. The guy is a gun footballer and i certainly don't have an irrational hatred of him like some people.
* discreetly points in direction of OP *

Hatred is a little pointy.
Greene is now, arguably the highest paid small/mid size forward in the game.
What I'm getting at is
Does he make your team a better chance of winning the flag.
Or
Would a player like Betts make your team a better chance for the flag

 

[Cdog71]

Hatred is a little pointy.
Greene is now, arguably the highest paid small/mid size forward in the game.
What I'm getting at is
Does he make your team a better chance of winning the flag.
Or
Would a player like Betts make your team a better chance for the flag

And don't forget that boring cliche
A champion team and all that

 

[The Goon]

Would take Eddie for this year.

Would take Toby for future, including next year.

This is footballing ability only.

As a character/locker-room presence/mentor...obviously no contest.

100% this.

 

[Bardo State]

I think I'd take Betts for a one off year or game.

Any time period longer than that and it's Greene easily.

 

[Cdog71]

Righto, might be drifting into drivel here

Kicking more goals is how you win a game but doesn't a players actions and character lift the morale?
How many times as he done stuff that players on his team might think "that's dumb s**t"
Does it stop the team from being a better team cause he can't hold his cool and put the team ahead of himself?

 

[gavaniacono]

Love Eddie terrif player and bloke. His footy enthusiasm is contagious and he along with Bud would be the only 2 oppo players that get me roaring when they kick goals "did u see that?"

But Toby, being a Tige bloke from way back, I just love his dirty and despicable side and that he can back it up with skills.

 

[offtherails9]

Greene = big game player

Eddie = goes missing at the slightest bit of pressure

 

[The Gov]

Yeah love Eddie but Greene is that dickhead that always kicks the killer blow goal at the end of the tight games, rubs it in your face, overcelebrates and ends up as the cover photo of the match report. Eddie blitzes in big wins but as much as I hate him Toby is the player is want on my team