Political Discussion part #2 - Let’s go out for 10 Big Macs at the Engadine Maccas!!

[FR0GGY]

You'd know better than I, but in my experience there's a cultural shift in the use of ED. People up to the age of about 30 use the ED as normal people use a GP. I see it with my employees, got a headache, off to see a doctor at the hospital.

Trouble is up there and i experienced it first hand with my son last year, is after hrs we went to the gp next to the hospital and they were full and told us to go the the ED where we got straight in.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

And the ones that are open after hours are generally the absolute pits in terms of quality doctors. Same goes for locums. Then there's the fees if they don't bulk bill. For some, why pay $50 to see an after hours GP when you can go to an ED for free.

While I'd personally only go to an ED after I've seen the GP and they tell me to go, I get why people would choose to go straight there.

Which all gets back my argument that Health should all be under the 1 jurisdiction - the Commonwealth as the 1 funder of services.

It would then become clearer about how to best provide true emergency services v not as urgent GP category 4/5 services.

At the moment you have GP's funded by the Commonwealth, who don't have an incentive to deal with after hours services, as they only pick up half of the tab if they go to ED.

The day it all comes under 1 jurisdiction, stopping the cost shifting, we can truly look at how to best provide overall services.

 

[1970crow]

No he wouldn't be. And all the others should have coughed up for their own by-election too.

Do you really want to pay a non-committed politician $150k+ for 4 years? There's near zero oversight of what they do, I'd prefer to pay for the bi-election and get someone hungry and committed in.

 

[FR0GGY]

Which all gets back my argument that Health should all be under the 1 jurisdiction - the Commonwealth as the 1 funder of services.

It would then become clearer about how to best provide true emergency services v not as urgent GP category 4/5 services.

At the moment you have GP's funded by the Commonwealth, who don't have an incentive to deal with after hours services, as they only pick up half of the tab if they go to ED.

The day it all comes under 1 jurisdiction, stopping the cost shifting, we can truly look at how to best provide overall services.

There are plenty of things that should be commonwealth run, I'm involved with food, we are registered with 4 councils in 4 states each with different rules and regulations, why should food safety be any different state to state?

 

[Elite Crow]

Interestingly Heysen has swung back to SA Best 52.3% with 72% counted. Preferences will have a huge say in this one

As I mentioned last night, calling Adelaide to the Libs was too early, as they lead by a slender 50.2% with only 65% counted.

The other in doubt is Mawson, but Labor extending on 51.2% with 69% counted.

Looking like Libs will just get a majority in their own right if they hang on to Adelaide:
24 Liberal
19 Labor
1 SA Best
3 independents

But if they lose Adelaide to the ALP, they will have a minority government, requiring the Liberal independent

Libs are currently 51.9% in Heysen but 13 votes behind in Adelaide.

 

[PrideOf]

Do you really want to pay a non-committed politician $150k+ for 4 years? There's near zero oversight of what they do, I'd prefer to pay for the bi-election and get someone hungry and committed in.

I'd prefer not to pay for a by-election, especially if it's straight after an election. And if the MP won't pay for it, think laterally about it and change the rules so their party can't run in the by-election.

You're absolutely on the money about zero oversight though, which is why this will never happen.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

There are plenty of things that should be commonwealth run, I'm involved with food, we are registered with 4 councils in 4 states each with different rules and regulations, why should food safety be any different state to state?

Personally I would move all major issues to the Commonwealth - Health, Education & laws (why does each state need to have a different version as we are 1 country)... Then merge state with local governments to deal with community issues

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Libs are currently 51.9% in Heysen but 13 votes behind in Adelaide.

Hmmm, ABC site was not so accurate then & must have swapped Libs & SAB votes in Heysen.

Libs still look likely to get 24 then even if they drop Adelaide, which could go either way. This seat used to go with the winner, but now it seems to reverse...

 

[brucetiki]

Libs are currently 51.9% in Heysen but 13 votes behind in Adelaide.

So Sanderson getting the people in Gilberton and Walkerville in a tizzy about having to rough it with the commoners in Torrens may be in vain

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-22/adelaide-residents-compared-to-hyacinth-bucket/7868082

 

[1970crow]

I'd prefer not to pay for a by-election, especially if it's straight after an election. And if the MP won't pay for it, think laterally about it and change the rules so their party can't run in the by-election.

You're absolutely on the money about zero oversight though, which is why this will never happen.

We've had this a couple if times for council elections up here. Why cant they just re-count with the resigning member removed from the count.

 

[PrideOf]

We've had this a couple if times for council elections up here. Why cant they just re-count with the resigning member removed from the count.

Yep, happy with that.

 

[Doctor B]

The bedroom ceiling is filled with hammers and sickles sorry

Not this?

 

[FruitTingles]

As the Labor Party was started by unions, what's the problem?

No problem at all, odds are that the Liberals, less involved, will have a much different view and be a bit tougher on numbers that's all.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

So Sanderson getting the people in Gilberton and Walkerville in a tizzy about having to rough it with the commoners in Torrens may be in vain

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-22/adelaide-residents-compared-to-hyacinth-bucket/7868082

She can go back to her modeling, which she was more interested in than her Uni work. She isn't a serious politician.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

We've had this a couple if times for council elections up here. Why cant they just re-count with the resigning member removed from the count.

Not unreasonable within a certain timeframe.

Would save heaps of taxpayer money... & prevent politicians wimping out on a commitment.

 

[Thetrader15]

So, will AO now get a roof?

 

[hey shorty]

So, will AO now get a roof?

Hope not, but I'd like a new rectangular stadium and a redeveloped Memorial Drive.

Not super high on the priority list mind you

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

So, will AO now get a roof?

Lol, no.chance & a waste of money that would ruin the oval.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

So, will AO now get a roof?

Got $8m in the pile of “previous government commitments to football” that we can have fun with.

 

[Elite Crow]

Got $8m in the pile of “previous government commitments to football” that we can have fun with.

A Crows museum at AO

 

[Cuzz09]

A Crows museum at AO

Isnt that your home crowd every 2nd week?

On [device_name] using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

Isnt that your home crowd every 2nd week?

On [device_name] using BigFooty.com mobile app

Yuk yuk yuk

 

[Thetrader15]

A Crows museum at AO

Nah, Marshall is a Port man too

 

[Markthirtytwo2]

Are you accusing an ABC reporter of being involved in a publicity stunt??

Probably moonlighting.

 

[Markthirtytwo2]

Which all gets back my argument that Health should all be under the 1 jurisdiction - the Commonwealth as the 1 funder of services.

It would then become clearer about how to best provide true emergency services v not as urgent GP category 4/5 services.

At the moment you have GP's funded by the Commonwealth, who don't have an incentive to deal with after hours services, as they only pick up half of the tab if they go to ED.

The day it all comes under 1 jurisdiction, stopping the cost shifting, we can truly look at how to best provide overall services.

In the north east there are two large medical centres being built as we speak that I know of. Must be plenty of money in them.