Political Discussion part #2 - Let’s go out for 10 Big Macs at the Engadine Maccas!!

[brucetiki]

First scalp in the banking royal commission goes to AMP

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-...ABC-Facebook_Organic&WT.tsrc=Facebook_Organic

 

[Vader]

Over $9,000 in new bookmarks for Dutton’s new offices. Isn’t this the same government that used to scream ‘budget emergency’.

http://abc.net.au/news/2018-04-19/home-affairs-executive-hq-to-cost-$1.8-million/9674920?pfmredir=sm

Meh.. media beatup. Rebranding costs money, whether it's private sector or public sector. Home Affairs is a very big portfolio, so the rebranding expenses are not going to be small.

That said, I don't think there was ever a need for the creation of a super-ministry (Home Affairs) in the first place - without which there would be no rebranding, and no bookmarks. But that's a whole other issue.

 

[brucetiki]

If it took 15 Feds to raid the unions, how many Feds will it take to raid the banks...

 

[Cap]

The AMP stuff and the Bank stuff is different.

You'd notice apart from the CBA (which was known) the Bank stuff was not only known but the rules already changed and dealt with.

This Financial planning stuff is different especially the AMP.

 

[brucetiki]

Ironic one of the first things the Libs do in government is a SA Health rebrand, despite calling the previous rebrand a 'Disgusting waste of our health dollar.'

Mustn't be as disgusting if you're the one throwing money around.

https://indaily.com.au/news/2018/04/20/well-well-rebranding-sa-health-disgusting-waste-money/

 

[WaynesWorld19]

 

[Cap]

Ironic one of the first things the Libs do in government is a SA Health rebrand, despite calling the previous rebrand a 'Disgusting waste of our health dollar.'

Mustn't be as disgusting if you're the one throwing money around.

https://indaily.com.au/news/2018/04/20/well-well-rebranding-sa-health-disgusting-waste-money/

You'll note that it wasn't a Liberal Party decision, but A SA Health one.

 

[brucetiki]

You'll note that it wasn't a Liberal Party decision, but A SA Health one.

And we have Liberal government that would need to sign off on this ‘Disgusting waste of our health dollar.’

 

[1970crow]

Aboriginal kids need to do a lot more than that to be incarcerated up here.

 

[brucetiki]

Interesting bit of information on the cornflute.

After the election, the CSG approached Nat Cook to see if she would donate some cornflute to the CSG to use as lettering templates. Cook responded by donation 72 of her cornflute posters to the group.

 

[Elite Crow]

Bicks one more point and Malcolm has the Coalition 50-50, good news hey?

 

[Elite Crow]

Maths not your strong subject??

Huh? We get 1 more point we are on 50 yeah? Which means Labor lose 1 to drop to 50, what am I missing?

Good to see you’re pleased by the result though.

 

[Elite Crow]

Won't bother this household's vote at the next election, we won't be voting for Liberal or Labor with both Parties having hopeless Leaders and second rate Cabinet and Shadow Ministers in the main.

So I pass Maths?

 

[Elite Crow]

Get back to me when it's actually 50/50 and IMO Labor wins with Greens preferences at 50/50 anyway.

Probably because Malcolm's been overseas and hasn't managed to stuff anything up in that period.

He's a dud and there's no way anyone will ever convince any different.

So I pass Maths?

And you’ve got Bruce liking your posts, that should give you a fair idea of the quality of it.

 

[jo172]

https://indaily.com.au/news/politics/2018/04/23/theyre-dickheads-darley/

Ah Xenophon's world of sidekicks. Not good for the state.

 

[1970crow]

Interesting bit of information on the cornflute.

After the election, the CSG approached Nat Cook to see if she would donate some cornflute to the CSG to use as lettering templates. Cook responded by donation 72 of her cornflute posters to the group.

Are they really made of corn?

 

[1970crow]

So I pass Maths?

And you’ve got Bruce liking your posts, that should give you a fair idea of the quality of it.

I was going to ask him whether he was a Bruce alias after his first response.

 

[brucetiki]

Are they really made of corn?

And flutes?

 

[brucetiki]

I was going to ask him whether he was a Bruce alias after his first response.

And here I am thinking Bicks, Elite Crows and jo172 are one and the same

 

[Vader]

An update on Finland's "universal basic income" trial:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/23/finland-to-end-basic-income-trial-after-two-years

Trial has been called off after 2 years. They're going to look at alternative welfare systems.

 

[Vader]

LOL

So it's not OK to sit on your ass and make no effort to find paid work or participate in training that might lead to employment while bludging off those that do work and pay taxes.

They're looking into other alternatives. Apparently it's reasonably popular with both sides of politics.

To quote the article:
The idea of UBI – appealing both to the left, which hopes it can cut poverty and inequality, and to the right, which sees it as a possible route to a leaner, less bureaucratic welfare system – has gained traction recently amid predictions that automation could threaten up to a third of current jobs.

This particular model didn't work out. Looks like they'll probably try again with another version.

 

[Vader]

Socialism/Communism without the work ethic.

Nah, just a different way of handling a social problem which they can see coming in the not too distant future - jobs being taken over by automation, leading to high rates of unemployment.

 

[Vader]

Thought this would interest you, another twist..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...n-a-job/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f6f5d9d812ff

Arguably not a long stretch from Rooseveldt's "New Deal", which helped get America out of the Great Depression. I don't have a problem with it, provided the projects are worthwhile and not just meaningless "make work" tasks.

 

[Carmo]

They're looking into other alternatives. Apparently it's reasonably popular with both sides of politics.

To quote the article:
The idea of UBI – appealing both to the left, which hopes it can cut poverty and inequality, and to the right, which sees it as a possible route to a leaner, less bureaucratic welfare system – has gained traction recently amid predictions that automation could threaten up to a third of current jobs.

This particular model didn't work out. Looks like they'll probably try again with another version.

Job Guarantee concept rapidly gaining traction, perhaps that'll be what they give a go too.

 

[Carmo]

Thought this would interest you, another twist..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...n-a-job/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f6f5d9d812ff

You beat me to it with the job guarantee.