Gaff coward punch assault on Andy thread

[scon]

I think Nev's got a very valid argument.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Pretty simple solution - you do something of that nature (punch to the head off the play), instant deregister for the year. Then watch as it never happens again

Tom Mitchell elbowed someone in the head, and got nothing because the impact was so minor.

This is the issue with the AFL.

 

[wayToGo_]

If Nisbett gets another press conference anything could happen. He must have a chook wheel in his office. Lucky it landed on "golf" and not "declare war on panama."

He did used to have one but Simpson got a bit too excited every time he entered his office. Think he uses a magic 8 ball these days.

 

[clivenator26]

Andy Maher suggesting Nisbett doesn't get much wrong, been around footy a long time etc, so putting doubts on Pav's tweet about the golf.

 

[Marty Whitelaw]

Nizzy you clown.

 

[DeanS]

When he said they had played golf together he meant it figuratively, apparently. He didn't mean that they had actually attended a golf course and played golf in the company of one another... or had even actually met. Or communicated.
Some less mature people may have missed the nuance in his comment that they played golf together. Of course he didn't mean in the sense of actually doing it. Stop taking things so literally.

Yeah, it's like saying "would" when you actually meant "wouldn't". You know, the old double negative thing.

I'm just waiting to see who will use the term "fake news" first out of Nesbitt or Simpson.

 

[salim malik]

Suggestion of a 12 month ban from Neville Bruns (who Leigh Matthews was charged with hitting) is interesting. https://thewest.com.au/sport/west-c...one-year-ban-says-neville-bruns-ng-b88919993z

I want to watch the best players out on the field as much as anyone but at the same time these pathetic Mickey Mouse fines and suspensions clearly aren't getting the message across that punches in AFL games are not acceptable for our society in 2018+. We are seeing a heap of the best players lose 12 or more months from freak injuries like ACLs, so why shouldn't we contemplate similar stints on the sidelines for disgusting deliberate acts that have no place on a football field?

I'm personally hoping this suspension considers how long Brayshaw would have been out for if this had happened earlier in the season so in the 10+ range. I think that would take the heat off talk of criminal charges and at least send some kind of message that irrespective of intent off the ball punching is not acceptable. If you look at Dean Solomon getting 8 weeks and Hall getting 10 weeks 10 years ago, anything less will put the heat back on the AFL as not taking the one punch and anti violence campaigns seriously.

During the off season I do hope they prepare new rules for year long bans for similar incidents in future. If players know they might miss an entire year they'll be far less likely to go out on the field with closed fists. We do not need to see another incident like this in the next decade.

Bruns also said that after his similar hit to Brayshaws he was told by the specialist another few inches and the hit would have been to the temple and he could have died . Bruns said he is still affected to this day and the incident changed his perspective on football. Those trying to downplay the hit by saying Gaff

meant to hit the chest but by accident hit the face dont seem to realise the dangers in throwing a punch any where near the head. Gaff missed the chest by a fair way and could have easily hit the temple or throat and the outcome would have been oh so different

 

[mightymouse75]

That would be fair. But it wont happen.as gaff is a star of the game.

 

[mightymouse75]

It would really hurt him in the hip pocket. Effect his new contract. Make everybody think twice. But afl are so wishy washy. If it was a lesser player from a less popular club. The afl would string him up.

 

[tonygeeks]

GAFF-HOOK
Definitions
from The Century Dictionary and Cyclopedia
n. A forceful blow directed at an opponents shoulder but actually connecting with an opponents face, 1.



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[Mezz]

This is what I posted on the main board. Really says it all about how I feel the Eagles have handled this.

Excellent post, dockerfemme. Agree 200%.

 

[yoong]

So looks like Andy and Gaff never played golf. Am I reading this right?View attachment 539490

Wow, just wow.
Bloody liar, son of a ....

#westcoastcultureproblems
#rottenfromthetop
#whateverittakes-westcoast

 

[im_a_lazy_sod]

Gaffgate is the gaffe that keeps on giving

 

[poshman]

I hope Gaff accepts it

Kinda wish the club tries to defend it though but instead of there being a penalty for Gaff there was a penalty to the club - really want them to burn for their continued arrogance. Weirdly, it's not Gaff i'm pissed it

This is where I am at - I was angry towards him initially but now it is with WCE, chiefly Nisbett and Simpson who refuse to be decent and rise above gutter scum.

 

[poshman]

Surely someone like a coach would have enough integrity to stand firm in the face of that though

If the coach can't live up to his core values, how the **** are the players expected to

Nisbett I expect it from, but not Simmo

This was the biggest surprise - he has always been a decent guy and no matter how much i dislike wce he was always a good guy. His quarter time interview and his channel seven interview were very poor. Came across like a spoilt, entitled w***er. Which is the opposite of what I have always thought of him through his playing days until now.

 

[im_a_lazy_sod]

This was the biggest surprise - he has always been a decent guy and no matter how much i dislike wce he was always a good guy. His quarter time interview and his channel seven interview were very poor. Came across like a spoilt, entitled w***er. Which is the opposite of what I have always thought of him through his playing days until now.

That's West Coast to a tee

 

[Fat Nyfe]

Gaffgate is the gaffe that keeps on giving

Gaffgate has become golfgate. #WeWantAnswersWCE

 

[Monument Hills]

Would have thought Pav would have checked his facts before squaring up against Nisbett over the golf, particularly after his tweet earlier in the year that got a lot of attention in the media. Pav easily has the contacts to double check that info and would only require a couple of phone calls to people in the know to confirm. #gaffhook #golfgate

EDIT: I see on Perthnow that Lachie Neale retweeted Pav's tweet. Given that Neale has Brayshaw living at his house and is currently looking after him, I can't imagine Pav has his facts wrong on this.

 

[electricfeel]

Bloody hell. Wouldn't expect anything else by an arrogant club who refuses to believe they do anything wrong. That culture bleeds down into the their entire team and fanbase right from the top.

Get em Pav. Love you Great Man.

 

[ShockersBoy11]

Reading the yellow scum board defending Gaff and Nisbett is ******* hilarious. Calling Pav a big nosed purple twat what a bunch of w***ers

 

[Crippa]

Thats pretty weak from Green. X weeks for any punch without regard to the circumstances. So 2 weeks for Gaff then? He's lost me. That's the sort of crap I reckon was engineered by west coast's spin doctors and he's signed up for the ride. When he starts naming and shaming non west coast punchers, I won't be listening.

Exactly. I was pretty disgusted by his comments. Can’t say I was in the least surprised though.

 

[Freo88]

Matt Thomspson from afl.com.au has just tweeted:
Fact: Andrew Brayshaw never played golf with Andrew Gaff.


I want to know if Andy has every picked up a golf club in his life now!

 

[Wizard]

Matt Thomspson from afl.com.au has just tweeted:
Fact: Andrew Brayshaw never played golf with Andrew Gaff.


I want to know if Andy has every picked up a golf club in his life now!

I'd like to smack him and Nisbett across the face with a 5 iron.

 

[nurries]

Andy Maher suggesting Nisbett doesn't get much wrong, been around footy a long time etc, so putting doubts on Pav's tweet about the golf.

Maher's Disclaimer word

 

[CrowBloke]

Those trying to downplay the hit by saying Gaff meant to hit the chest but by accident hit the face don't seem to realise the dangers in throwing a punch any where near the head. Gaff missed the chest by a fair way and could have easily hit the temple or throat and the outcome would have been oh so different

This.
There are plenty of posters on the WCE Board defending Gaff in just that way. I posted this in their thread, mostly got shouted down; one (moron) accused me of being a Social Justice Warrior! *shakes head*
""I've read about a quarter of this thread's posts, every 4 pages.
Kudos to the WC supporters who've condemned Gaff's extraordinary brain-fade and called for a 6+ week suspension.
To those who've resorted to victim-blaming (eg "Brayshaw ducked...", "Gaff didn't intend to hit him in the jaw" <== as if the mind-readers know what Gaff intended) and/or attacks on Freo as a Club, or their coach, shame on you.
Your vile attempts to defend the indefensible are bereft of logic, or sympathy for Brayshaw. Shame on you and any player who uses football as a medium to vent their rage through king-hits like that eg Barry Hall.

Just saw Gaff's post-match comments on ABC News; he is remorseful, clearly, and said that he feels "sick" about it. Gaff is no Barry Hall. These were the comments of a decent man, but I hope he gets 6 weeks, minimum. I suspect that not even Gaff knows why he did it.
Every parent whose child plays Aussie Rules will watch the incident with fear and might even guide those kids to another sport.
I hope Brayshaw has a speedy, thorough recovery, but I suspect it will have deep-seated and lingering post-stress trauma ..."".
I've seen the footage a few times now. It's sickening. All the best to Brayshaw and his family.
P.S. Gaff has forfeited his shot at the 2018 Brownlow and WC's Finals chances will be severely decreased. Good.