Racing The All Star Mile
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But is still better than Monaco Consul. And you wanna plug horses who lost to him.Exactly - not good enough to win at the top level
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Why would a cat be up there?
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Are there any horses that are any good? It seems unless you are Winx you are a cat / no hoper Gp3 horse.
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Ahh so its best to just never win!Redzel
Here's a cheap lesson - if you have one freak anomaly win largely backed up by diddly squat and keep getting hyped for it you are on my radar.
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YEP
100 percent
any horse racing in Australia besides Winx at distances further than 1800m are all walking machines and have been for more than 20 years (so You Think and maybe Star Craft excluded)
Our sprinters are going through a lull at the moment but we have had countless good ones recently so i think they will get better again soon.
blame the breeding industry.
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it seems things have happened
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Bit harsh on Fields of Omagh there Heath
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think being tailed off in hong kong suggests he is the big cat that he is. Any other track than the cattery and he would have had an average career.
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Vengeance of Rain was an Aussie don’t forget
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Yeah agree todays A graders dont stack up to yesterdays A graders but I still classify horses like Kem and KWD as A graders compared to the rest of the current crop.
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Would be unlikely but if Hartnell could go the well 1 more time I don’t see much beating him. He’d be my number 1. At WFA his best is the benchmark but hasn’t been putting it up consistently at his age. Same could be said for the clapper but I have less faith.
All that said I’ll still be voting for Tom from Melbourne.
All that said I’ll still be voting for Tom from Melbourne.
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Could Tasmania have a representative in Mystic Journey? An impressive winner last night in Launnie
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thinking out loud here
but say the votes were to end today at 44k
the field would be
Urban Ruler, The Autumn Sun/Hartnell(sub), Man of his word, extra brut, grunt, amphitrite, moss n dale, mr money bags, foundry, material man, alizee (wild cards) the clapper, land of plenty, mystical journey
say you vote for the fave thats certain to be in the field (Grunt at this stage) with all the camels around at 100:1+ he's about a $8 chance max.. the expected return on just simply voting for Grunt would be $18.
or a 1 in 1750(votes)*8(odds)
1 in 14000 chance of 250k. for no stake.
say the votes double from here, worst case you are getting around $9-$10 expected return. and voting the day before you would just back the best horse with the least votes that will certainly make the field. ie Alizee based on current markets. you would expect the fave at WFA to be around 4's or lower in a 14 horse field with so many duds.
yet people still be voting for urban ruler.
but say the votes were to end today at 44k
the field would be
Urban Ruler, The Autumn Sun/Hartnell(sub), Man of his word, extra brut, grunt, amphitrite, moss n dale, mr money bags, foundry, material man, alizee (wild cards) the clapper, land of plenty, mystical journey
say you vote for the fave thats certain to be in the field (Grunt at this stage) with all the camels around at 100:1+ he's about a $8 chance max.. the expected return on just simply voting for Grunt would be $18.
or a 1 in 1750(votes)*8(odds)
1 in 14000 chance of 250k. for no stake.
say the votes double from here, worst case you are getting around $9-$10 expected return. and voting the day before you would just back the best horse with the least votes that will certainly make the field. ie Alizee based on current markets. you would expect the fave at WFA to be around 4's or lower in a 14 horse field with so many duds.
yet people still be voting for urban ruler.
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on current trend 50% of voters horse won't make the 10. huge amount of dead votes
so currently only 22k people in running and 5k voted for urban ruler at 100:1. dead votes everywhere if you just wait.
so currently only 22k people in running and 5k voted for urban ruler at 100:1. dead votes everywhere if you just wait.
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i sorted for ratings on the website. of the 5 lowest rated horses 3 trained by Hayes and 2 by McEvoy. Interestingly Laure Me in is one of those low raters!
Hayes is a good trainer (although i tend to think its Dabernig who does all the good work) but he loves having a throw at the stumps with no hopers
Hayes is a good trainer (although i tend to think its Dabernig who does all the good work) but he loves having a throw at the stumps with no hopers
Does that count all those who voted for TAS, which are essentially dead votes as it won't run
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i follow a few horses of Hayes' closely for various reasons. gets the winners and they all look great but gee i don't like how their horses are managed.
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nope did not even factor that in (in my head i factored that is TAS missed, Hartnell would take his place as a good chance as a wildcard but had no votes), i think in the end you could seriously put a vote in with hope of making some money. slim chance but couldn't think of many raffles lotto etc that have expected return of around $15 for free.
So the horse leading the voting has 800 owners and a rating of 77, the horse in second place is not running and the horse in 3rd the owner gives you a free cheeseburger if you vote for him
lol a farce
lol a farce
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