Other Colin Kaepernick is Righter Than You Know: The National Anthem is a Celebration of Slavery

[TheGreatBarryB]

and if the conclusion is CK is a sellout?

NFL has far more resources. In these cases it’s a huge advantage. They get the best lawyers and drag it out if they have to.

Why if you vehemently think you’ve been falsely accused of something would you agree to pay someone a settlement with full suppression of ever talking about when your resources are endless compared to the other party?

 

[11sjw]

NFL has far more resources. In these cases it’s a huge advantage. They get the best lawyers and drag it out if they have to.

Why if you vehemently think you’ve been falsely accused of something would you agree to pay someone a settlement with full suppression of ever talking about when your resources are endless compared to the other party?

But the ad told us to sacrifice everything. It didn’t tell us to bail part way through when some cash was waved under our nose.

 

[ausbacker]

NFL has far more resources. In these cases it’s a huge advantage. They get the best lawyers and drag it out if they have to.

Why if you vehemently think you’ve been falsely accused of something would you agree to pay someone a settlement with full suppression of ever talking about when your resources are endless compared to the other party?

Because discovery can uncover (unrelated) things NFL owners would prefer to keep out of the public domain.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

But the ad told us to sacrifice everything. It didn’t tell us to bail part way through when some cash was waved under our nose.

The ad was a bit of a wank, I don’t think he’s good enough to be a starter in the league.

But he’s better option than a lot of other backups and just think there has clearly been non-football reasons he’s not playing. And for that I think it’s unfair.

Oh and the argument that kneeling is unpatriotic is also a wank.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Because discovery can uncover (unrelated) things NFL owners would prefer to keep out of the public domain.

They get a ruling or motion to keep it from public especially if not deemed relevant.

 

[ausbacker]

They get a ruling or motion to keep it from public especially if not deemed relevant.

You paid no attention to Bountygate and Deflategate and the systematic leaking of confidential information did you?

 

[Exe Gesis]

Eric Reid’s potential PED testing grievance likely was settled, too
Posted by Mike Florio on February 15, 2019, 9:20 PM EST

When it comes to the confidential settlement reached by and between the NFL, Colin Kaepernick, and Eric Reid, no one is saying anything. About anything.
Beyond the announcements issued by the parties on Friday, the terms of which no doubt were written carefully, reviewed painstakingly, and approved warily, nothing else has been or will be provided, at least not anytime soon.

Here’s one angle that, given the standard approach to settlement agreements, likely requires no confirmation from either side: Any potential grievance or other legal claim arising from Reid’s suspicion that he was targeted for PED testing in retaliation for his collusion claim most likely were waived as part of the resolution.

Most settlement agreements include broad, sweeping language releasing the party writing the check from any and all liability, with broad and repetitive language aimed at encompassing all claims that were made and that could have been made, typically including a description of the period encompassed as “from the beginning of time to the date of this agreement.”
But prospective waivers of liability can’t happen. If Reid believes that he’s being singled out for PED testing or substance-abuse testing or fines for on-field hits, he could (in theory) argue that the league is retaliating against him. It’s nevertheless possible that, as part of his settlement documents, Reid has signed an acknowledgement that he currently has no evidence of foul play as it relates to past PED testing and that all testing, fines, etc. were on the up and up. It’s not an absolute protection against future entanglements, but it becomes the best way to wipe the slate clean.

The settlement agreement also could (and probably should) include an agreement pursuant to which Reid will make no allegations of retaliation absent evidence of retaliation, and that if he believes he’s the victim of retaliation he will say nothing about it publicly unless and until he files a formal grievance.

Regardless of the specific language used, it’s likely the last we’ll hear of Reid thinking he’s been targeted for PED tests. If we do, it will mean either that Reid is violating his agreement or that the NFL’s lawyers didn’t do a very good job of drafting it.

 

[11sjw]

The ad was a bit of a wank, I don’t think he’s good enough to be a starter in the league.

But he’s better option than a lot of other backups and just think there has clearly been non-football reasons he’s not playing. And for that I think it’s unfair.

Oh and the argument that kneeling is unpatriotic is also a wank.

Meh, he allowed his face to be put to the ad. He's now not followed through on "his" words.

Better than some. Can we trace his decline to his adoption of veganism? It would be fun if we could see a direct correlation.

Unpatriotic, whatever. My take was that he wasn't good enough for the circus that would come with him. Outside of that his employers or prospective employers didn't want him to be behaving like that in their workplace.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Looking at the chronology now, in hindsight, it would SEEM it was all a cash grab for the years he missed out on the $20m a year salaries he thought he deserved. Missed about 2 years. Got paid probably $40m+ for those missed years of employment to go quietly into the night. He knows he can't get an NFL job and wants the money he missed out on. Him and his agent played a game of anthem protest + litigation to get what he was after (the money), force the NFL into a settlement. His work is done, he has a smile on his face, the world is all good again.

That's how it will now go down in history. A "clever" game to extract missed salary.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Outside of that his employers or prospective employers didn't want him to be behaving like that in their workplace.

Behaving like what? Having an opinion on police shootings, what a naughty man.

 

[ausbacker]

Looking at the chronology now, in hindsight, it would SEEM it was all a cash grab for the years he missed out on the $20m a year salaries he thought he deserved. Missed about 2 years. Got paid probably $40m+ for those missed years of employment to go quietly into the night. He knows he can't get an NFL job and wants the money he missed out on. Him and his agent played a game of anthem protest + litigation to get what he was after (the money), force the NFL into a settlement. His work is done, he has a smile on his face, the world is all good again.

That's how it will now go down in history. A "clever" game to extract missed salary.

Let's also acknowledge the timing of his reported request for 20 million to play in the AAF (which they were right to refuse).

I happen to believe he's a fraud but as an extremely wealthy man now, there's a lot of good he can do with the money (if he should so choose).

 

[11sjw]

Behaving like what? Having an opinion on police shootings, what a naughty man.

If my boss told me not to protest in the middle of my workplace and I did i’d be out on my arse much like he is.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Let's also acknowledge the timing of his reported request for 20 million to play in the AAF (which they were right to refuse).

I happen to believe he's a fraud but as an extremely wealthy man now, there's a lot of good he can do with the money (if he should so choose).

Especially as the AAF has a socialistic salary structure....where every player at every position gets the exact same base salary. So he was just looking for a pay day.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Behaving like what? Having an opinion on police shootings, what a naughty man.

The ultimate outcome of the settlement tho shows that his whole protest was a sham, a ploy to force a litigation+settlement. Because he already knew before the anthem protests that he was stuck as a back-up, and NFL GMs/HCs felt his game had declined and wasn't a fit for them. And he couldn't find a team willing to pay him the $20m salary he wanted. Even demanding that of the AAF recently....meaning---all he wanted was $20m salary for 2+ years before he retired from the game. If the AAF gave it to him, his collusion case would've obviously been stopped.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Let's see if he responds and has a melt

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

The ultimate outcome of the settlement tho shows that his whole protest was a sham, a ploy to force a litigation+settlement. Because he already knew before the anthem protests that he was stuck as a back-up, and NFL GMs/HCs felt his game had declined and wasn't a fit for them. And he couldn't find a team willing to pay him the $20m salary he wanted. Even demanding that of the AAF recently....meaning---all he wanted was $20m salary for 2+ years before he retired from the game. If the AAF gave it to him, his collusion case would've obviously been stopped.

So you’re saying the NFL possibly paid him millions for basically nothing? “Colin what you’re saying is crap but here’s a 7-8 figure cheque”. Seriously?!

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

If my boss told me not to protest in the middle of my workplace and I did i’d be out on my arse much like he is.

Not if you had to stand for the national anthem. No boss can sack you for taking a knee or even sitting down. Fair Work would kick them out on their arse.

 

[Exe Gesis]

So you’re saying the NFL possibly paid him millions for basically nothing? “Colin what you’re saying is crap but here’s a 7-8 figure cheque”. Seriously?!

The NFL WAS put into a corner they wanted to also avoid. There was probably something in the emails/texts that the NFL didn't want to come out, damage the game in some capacity. It might not be actual collusion tho, but maybe racist comments between the owners?

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

The NFL WAS put into a corner they wanted to also avoid. There was probably something in the emails/texts that the NFL didn't want to come out, damage the game in some capacity. It might not be actual collusion tho, but maybe racist comments between the owners?

Yeah if they’re paying (as you claim) $10m+ settlement they sure have something to hide.

LeBron James, Kyrie Irving and a few other players made a protest at a game 5 years for a black man who was choked to death by a NY cop. They wore “I can’t breathe” tees as they were the guy’s last words. No repercussion at all from NBA.

Popovich and Kerr are two coaches who make political comments with no repercussions.

NFL struggles with this like every other controversy/issue.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Yeah if they’re paying (as you claim) $10m+ settlement they sure have something to hide.

LeBron James, Kyrie Irving and a few other players made a protest at a game 5 years for a black man who was choked to death by a NY cop. They wore “I can’t breathe” tees as they were the guy’s last words. No repercussion at all from NBA.

Popovich and Kerr are two coaches who make political comments with no repercussions.

NFL struggles with this like every other controversy/issue.

It just might not be actual collusion, but more racist comments. Because you've heard how some owners have been caught out saying racist or questionable things and copped flack for it. So it could well be something truly horrific like owners referring to the players in very derogatory terms.

 

[baz_machine]

The whole league is about getting your pay day.

Some like Bortels and Oswieler pretend to be QBs. Colin went about it in a different way. Kudos to him been a league trailblazer in getting paid via the NFL fumbling the anthem protests.

 

[IKnowtheDog]

Yeah if they’re paying (as you claim) $10m+ settlement they sure have something to hide.

LeBron James, Kyrie Irving and a few other players made a protest at a game 5 years for a black man who was choked to death by a NY cop. They wore “I can’t breathe” tees as they were the guy’s last words. No repercussion at all from NBA.

Popovich and Kerr are two coaches who make political comments with no repercussions.

NFL struggles with this like every other controversy/issue.

None of the NBA coaches or players have taken a physical stance against the flag. The issue is now over and all parties can move on.

 

[ausbacker]

None of the NBA coaches or players have taken a physical stance against the flag. The issue is now over and all parties can move on.

The NBA has a broad sweeping rule which requires standing during the national anthem.

 

[samFFC]

Looking at the chronology now, in hindsight, it would SEEM it was all a cash grab for the years he missed out on the $20m a year salaries he thought he deserved. Missed about 2 years. Got paid probably $40m+ for those missed years of employment to go quietly into the night. He knows he can't get an NFL job and wants the money he missed out on. Him and his agent played a game of anthem protest + litigation to get what he was after (the money), force the NFL into a settlement. His work is done, he has a smile on his face, the world is all good again.

That's how it will now go down in history. A "clever" game to extract missed salary.

Happen to disagree
It will be remembered for the impact of the kneeling. People will forget he got this settlement other than to see it through the lens of “an admission of guilt”.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Happen to disagree
It will be remembered for the impact of the kneeling. People will forget he got this settlement other than to see it through the lens of “an admission of guilt”.

One thing I will say, which budding legal expert Southerntakeover can confirm/deny.....often, when two parties agree to a settlement, it's because the judge feels like both parties aren't going to win, that both parties are going to lose multiple key points. Not a stalemate as such, but that a win:win situation is looming, so the judge brings both parties legal teams together to negotiate and mediate the terms to sign off on.