Mid-Price Madness....

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Mofra said:
McGrath, very very tempting. Solid JLT could get him into my side. Not much trust in the backline premos.
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Can I ask why lack of trust in backline premos?
Personally hesitant to spend 570-600k on more than 1 of them(Laird, Lloyd Sicily, Simpson) if any. I want a 105 average for that outlay, if you spend that on a mid you want 105 minimum, aiming for 110-115. That doesn't change just cos they are defenders.
But it's not that I don't trust them, just think they're more likely to go 100 maximum than 105+,so no value at all.
Just keen to get your thoughts.
 
ubeaut said:
Can I ask why lack of trust in backline premos?
Personally hesitant to spend 570-600k on more than 1 of them(Laird, Lloyd Sicily, Simpson) if any. I want a 105 average for that outlay, if you spend that on a mid you want 105 minimum, aiming for 110-115. That doesn't change just cos they are defenders.
But it's not that I don't trust them, just think they're more likely to go 100 maximum than 105+,so no value at all.
Just keen to get your thoughts.
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Don't know about others, but these are my personal question marks on each:
Lloyd - mainly more attention, how many defenders average 112 B2B, role change as intercept player
Laird - role change with new rules, less short marks in pocket
Sicily - volatile, most people think they can pick him up cheaper (likely to score 60s at some stage), suspension risk, role change as intercept player?
Simpson - 54 years old
 

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SterlingArcher said:
Don't know about others, but these are my personal question marks on each:
Lloyd - mainly more attention, how many defenders average 112 B2B, role change as intercept player
Laird - role change with new rules, less short marks in pocket
Sicily - volatile, most people think they can pick him up cheaper (likely to score 60s at some stage), suspension risk, role change as intercept player?
Simpson - 54 years old
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For me ... the premium defenders are still only averaging 100 - 105

So by selecting more mid priced DEF with upside, they may represent better value ... and allow me to spread the $$ more

Now i haven’t done that, but Andrew Birch has, and i like his thinking behind it

I also like that the side should have just 4-5 Rookies on field ..... so how to do it ?
 
WaynesWorld19 said:
For me ... the premium defenders are still only averaging 100 - 105

So by selecting more mid priced DEF with upside, they may represent better value ... and allow me to spread the $$ more

Now i haven’t done that, but Andrew Birch has, and i like his thinking behind it

I also like that the side should have just 4-5 Rookies on field ..... so how to do it ?
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You can achieve a lower number of on-field rookies in part by seeking out and choosing undervalued premiums over the uber 600k+ premiums. There are a bunch of players particularly in the midfield who have averaged 110+ in recent years in the 500-550k price bracket who are just as likely to be top10 mids this year as the 600k+ premiums. As discussed by others (who's names escape me right now) the turnover for top10 midfielders (and rucks) from year to year is quite high.
 
Andrew Birch said:
You can achieve a lower number of on-field rookies in part by seeking out and choosing undervalued premiums over the uber 600k+ premiums. There are a bunch of players particularly in the midfield who have averaged 110+ in recent years in the 500-550k price bracket who are just as likely to be top10 mids this year as the 600k+ premiums. As discussed by others (who's names escape me right now) the turnover for top10 midfielders (and rucks) from year to year is quite high.
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Yeah , i’m seriously considering your approach ..... maybe not whole of field, but certainly, where midpriced options present themselves
 
WaynesWorld19 said:
For me ... the premium defenders are still only averaging 100 - 105

So by selecting more mid priced DEF with upside, they may represent better value ... and allow me to spread the $$ more

Now i haven’t done that, but Andrew Birch has, and i like his thinking behind it

I also like that the side should have just 4-5 Rookies on field ..... so how to do it ?
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My issue is believing in 4 guys to average between 101-107ish (Lloyd, Laird, Whitfield, Sicily) but believing all could be great value at some stage in the year (big drops for Lloyd/Laird trying to maintain mid premo averages, Sicily/Whitfield a tagged game, Sicily an injury game) - so obviously I want to plan on these guys in my final side.

But then, I also think the 5th to 10th rung could change a lot too. With Yeo, McDonald, Brayshaw out of the defence, we see the 5th to 10th being Hurn, Crisp, Howe, Suckling, Shaw, Hurley. If Crisp was fit he'd be a no-brainer, while Hurn is definitely a 'if it suits the team' player, which doesn't lend itself to scoring the same way year on year. 2019 could include guys like Z.Williams, Crozer, Ryan, Andrews, Witherden, B.Williams...picking a couple of these is tempting, but I could easily pick the wrong 2 of the big 4 (Lloyd/Whitfield/Laird/Sicily) and the wrong 2 of the breakouts, while also looking for obvious upgrade targets (Simpson, Crisp).

How to sort the defence so I can pick the premos needed, pick the breakout player or 2, and leave room for obvious upgrade targets and any other premium...
 
ubeaut said:
Yeah but he was very underwhelming last year. Needs guaranteed mid time, otherwise I think Frances is a more likely candidate.
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On potential Francis is a lock but is his body up it?
Same as Darcy Moore for me. Would have both of them in my team if I thought their body could hold up.
 
LegendLewis said:
currently no rookies on field in the forward line
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Not a bad strategy at this early stage. Looks like we could start up to 3 in defence and mids and if you're game 1 in the rucks. There seem to be a couple forward rookies with potentially good job security but i have big doubts about their scoring capabilities.
 
ubeaut said:
Can I ask why lack of trust in backline premos?
Personally hesitant to spend 570-600k on more than 1 of them(Laird, Lloyd Sicily, Simpson) if any. I want a 105 average for that outlay, if you spend that on a mid you want 105 minimum, aiming for 110-115. That doesn't change just cos they are defenders.
But it's not that I don't trust them, just think they're more likely to go 100 maximum than 105+,so no value at all.
Just keen to get your thoughts.
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In terms of scoring consistency, I don't mind Sicily but how many games does he miss due injury / suspension?
Laird - does Brodie Smith steal points?
Simpson - age.

The one premo I have faith in - Whitfield - I have in my side because if he's struggling down back his tank means Cameron could put him into the midfield rotations.

There seems to be a few mid-pricers who are virtually fallen premos (Smith, Zac Williams) who have a similar risk profile for lower outlay which means extra $$$ can be used on the forwardline premos, of which there seem to be a few who are virtually mid premos with proven durability / scoring consistency (e.g. Smith, Mills, Danger, and Dunkley's second half of 2018, his off-season with Bont in the US and his pre-season meant he was my first player picked).
 
WaynesWorld19 said:
ATS ... Setterfield and Parker ... so lots of ????
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Got both. Suspect Cav will get games too, we have far less injuries than last year right now but he's still a round 1 chance.
Apparently his skills off both feet have impressed and he can stick a tackle.
 

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Dare I mention that due to the ruck situation this year, there are a couple of very tempting mid priced rucks too?
*ducks*
 
Mofra said:
Dare I mention that due to the ruck situation this year, there are a couple of very tempting mid priced rucks too?
*ducks*
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As a Doggies supporter how's English looking? U guys went with him from round 1 last year and he played 7 games before injury. Has he bulked up?
 
Daniel McL said:
Sean Darcy & Tim English

Considering
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Ditto.

I see Grundy and Gawn dropping in price, and Sandi missing from the first few weeks of the season at least, giving Darcy a decent crack at it.
The Bulldogs have three fit ruckmen on the list (Trengove, English who is highly rated internally, and a 20 yo rookie named Sweet).

There are mid and forward premos who are likely to maintain high scoring levels.
 
Mofra said:
Ditto.

I see Grundy and Gawn dropping in price, and Sandi missing from the first few weeks of the season at least, giving Darcy a decent crack at it.
The Bulldogs have three fit ruckmen on the list (Trengove, English who is highly rated internally, and a 20 yo rookie named Sweet).

There are mid and forward premos who are likely to maintain high scoring levels.
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Darcy should get lots of time in the No.1 Ruck role with Sandilands out for a while, but I’m worried Trengove will take points off English if he rucks too much :think:
 
Mofra said:
Got both. Suspect Cav will get games too, we have far less injuries than last year right now but he's still a round 1 chance.
Apparently his skills off both feet have impressed and he can stick a tackle.
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What about scoring though .... Eddie Betts is a great player as a small forward .... but no one picks him in SC
 
WaynesWorld19 said:
What about scoring though .... Eddie Betts is a great player as a small forward .... but no one picks him in SC
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Cav would only need to be a cash cow, not a keeper.
 
Just playing around with my structure and put some mid pricers in.

Currently looking at my team..

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