Is that what all those countries in the graphic you put up are about to become?What 'far right wing ethnically nationalist' nation State hasnt been genocidal?
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Is that what all those countries in the graphic you put up are about to become?What 'far right wing ethnically nationalist' nation State hasnt been genocidal?
You seem confused as to whether you think Churchill was an imperialist bigot or to be charitable to him and believe he was going against his liberal instincts.http://www.spiegel.de/international...n-churchill-stopped-the-nazis-a-712259-9.html
You need to understand, WW2 wasnt just won by liberal capitalist nations.
The Communists were also involved in defeating Fascism along with the Liberal west, and indeed the Soviets made the biggest contribution. The Postdam agreement was one where we (the liberals) agreed to allow the Soviets all of Eastern Europe, and they let the Western Liberal powers have Western Europe.
Part of that deal was the expulsion of Germans from the East. Yes Churchill agreed to it, and he probably even supported it (if he didnt support the way it was carried out) but it's harsh to say it was solely his doing, and not as part of the agreement re Europe with the Russians and Stalin.
If I were to read into Churchill, I would say the man probably thought that moving the Germans into Germany was the lesser of two evils, rather than leave them under the yoke of Stalin and Communism.
Also, better to have the Germans on our side of the Berlin wall, than on the side of the Communists.
By Liberal I mean the States, not the leaders.
Both the UK and the USA were at all material times during WW2 Liberal nation States. The USA remains a liberal republic today, notwithstanding it's currently led by a populist right wing President (Trump), just like the UK remained a Liberal State when it was led by a populist Right wing leader (Churchill).
While they might have bent over to the Soviets (appeasement mainly, and to stave off Wold War 3 starting almost immediately) and implemented some individual policies that could be considered (sans context) harsh, the UK and USA were (and still are) Liberal democracies.
Britain in WW2 was not a Fascist State, and neither was the USA. They were Liberal democracies, and trying to sell them as anything else undermines your argument.
Where do u get this stuff and why do u bother? You must hate poor people.You won't find a girlfriend/boyfriend by saying SJW all the time.Anyone who doesn't want social justice is a campaigner anyway.Pros: Safety, Security, Prosperity, Human Rights
Cons: Obesity, Low Birth Rates, Complacency, SJWs
Where do u get this stuff and why do u bother? You must hate poor people.You won't find a girlfriend/boyfriend by saying SJW all the time.Anyone who doesn't want social justice is a campaigner anyway.
So you hate Western poor people,why is that?
Yeah but you're lazy and stupid, you got free advantages from your parents, so does that mean you're smart? What do you do for a job? Sitting on bigfooty all day with pro Trump trolling means you are lazy and very stupid.With few medical exceptions the causes of being poor in the west are as follows:
1. Being Lazy
2. Being Stupid
3. Being Lazy & Stupid
It does seem like a strange claim given how well the Germans did following WWI in the absence of liberalism.The US and UK might have been more liberal than the Nazis, but it wasn’t liberalism that won the war, and it wasn’t liberalism that made the peace. It’s ahistorical to claim so.
What a horrible person you must be.You won't have any friends spouting your classist agenda here Mr up himself.With few medical exceptions the causes of being poor in the west are as follows:
1. Being Lazy
2. Being Stupid
3. Being Lazy & Stupid
Appears to be a case of cognitive dissonance being stuck between the fact he fought the Nazis and wasn't communist while knowing how he treated the Indians and others.You seem confused as to whether you think Churchill was an imperialist bigot or to be charitable to him and believe he was going against his liberal instincts.
Why is low birth rates a con?Pros: Safety, Security, Prosperity, Human Rights
Cons: Obesity, Low Birth Rates, Complacency, SJWs
I'm poor because I lost half my assets twice, to 2 defacto relationships. Guess I come squarely under option 2. I thought I was being smart by not getting married... turns out you need a prenup just to live with a gf these days!With few medical exceptions the causes of being poor in the west are as follows:
1. Being Lazy
2. Being Stupid
3. Being Lazy & Stupid
In 1900 there were four empires in Central and Eastern Europe: the Russian Empire, the German (Prussian) Empire, the Ottoman Empire and the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Both world wars were kicked off by ethnic tensions in the territories covered by these empires.It does seem like a strange claim given how well the Germans did following WWI in the absence of liberalism.
The Cons are obviously massive carbon emmissions, creation of the super rich and the class system, environmental destruction and species loss, rise of white supremacy, short term political agendas, racism egged on by newspapers and politicians, religious zealotry and mass proliferation of invasive corporate branding and advertising.
I'm poor because I lost half my assets twice, to 2 defacto relationships. Guess I come squarely under option 2. I thought I was being smart by not getting married... turns out you need a prenup just to live with a gf these days!
Economy depends on population growth. Looking at it purely economically, it'd be more efficient to supply this internally, rather than to always be integrating outsiders. This can obviously be seen as a racist notion, but there are already people of all backgrounds represented in the west who have assimilated. It is cheaper to have those already here make up the numbers, rather than investing in teaching English and other western norms to the newbies.Why is low birth rates a con?
Are you sure that is true. 20 years of being a dependent with 12 years of publically paid education is far far more expensive then some english lessons. There are also plenty of working age people who want to immigrate who already know english as well.Economy depends on population growth. Looking at it purely economically, it'd be more efficient to supply this internally, rather than to always be integrating outsiders. This can obviously be seen as a racist notion, but there are already people of all backgrounds represented in the west who have assimilated. It is cheaper to have those already here make up the numbers, rather than investing in teaching English and other western norms to the newbies.
What a horrible person you must be.You won't have any friends spouting your classist agenda here Mr up himself.
Well the pros are good infrastructure and job opportunities but don't be fooled by just the economics. Western Civilization has the highest rates of suicide, depression and an epidemic of isolation and loneliness. Plus homelessness and child poverty ,even though there is enough money to prevent these things happening.England still has a thriving class system, the USA won't provide universal health care, so if you have cancer, unless you can afford insurance,you will only be given pain relief. RE religious zealotry ,you only have to look at the ruling Liberal party in Australia .The PM is part of a evangelical church or Pentscostal church which has some very whacky views, the Catholic Cabal in the Liberal party has formed a powerful votingblock that influences policy and legislation. Eg patronizing views of indigenous culture and rights, appointment of school chaplains, the right to be a bigot ,homophobia, demonization of minority groups and being cheerleaders for antiquated and destructive policies that built western civilization eg fossil fuels ect.Australia is a very racist country ,you just have to look at internet forums, rise of One Nation, Kerry Ann Kennel, Sonia Kruger, Rita Panahay,Miranda Devine, Paul Murray,Cory Bernadi, Fraser Anning, Andrew Bolt, Alan Jones, most 'journalists' at the Australian, Herald Sun,Daily Mail,Sky News , plus other groups like the True Blue Crew. Mathew Guys election policy was mainly a scare campaign on African gangs and it back fired spectaculary.Michaela Cash hugging Pauline Hanson after her speech. John Howard on Asian immigrants.Everything that catholic Peter Dutton says and does.Constant referring to refugees as rapists and murderers.Denying medical aid to refugees.Channel 7 and 9 and their ensemble of white only celebrities.The class system is a bigger problem with other civilisations. The modern west has greatly reduced the class system by developing the welfare state. The west actually went too far the other way for a brief period in the creation of marxism.
The modern west has greatly reduced relgious zealotry and is now the least religious civilisation. It is one of the pros of the modern west compared to other civilisations.
The modern west is also the least racist of all civilisations. It is the civilisation that developed human rights and made racial discrimination a crime. Other civilisations didnt do that. It is a pro of the modern west not a con. Most civilisations in history dont even see racism as a bad thing.
All of the the above 3 could be much better but when we look at pros and cons it is a comparison to the other civilisations that have existed. Not a comparison to our version of utopia.
Agree on emissions and over the top corporatisation though.
Do you have any pros?
"Being poor in a western nation is caused by Laziness and/or Stupidity" lol you are an A1 campaigner.Bet you wouldn't say that to anyone's face you weak coward. Why are you on the computer at your parent's house if your're not lazy or stupid?Shouldn't you be at work at your high paying job with your top model girlfriend?lol You're out of your depth here bozo, go and get a job you bum.
You are out of your depth, all your doing is trotting out right wing cliches you found on the internet and you're a compulsive liar like Trump.What sort of 6 figure job do you have? Lol.By saying people without money are lazy and stupid is not an argument, it's just a slur and an unimaginative one.What happened when you told people they were poor because they lazy and stupid? Did you get a good response? Lol .Or did you just make it up in your own head.?I have said it to many peoples faces.
I am at my full time 6 figure job that has a bit of free time.
Never been out of my depth on any subject, keep trying
You are out of your depth, all your doing is trotting out right wing cliches you found on the internet and you're a compulsive liar like Trump.What sort of 6 figure job do you have? Lol.By saying people without money are lazy and stupid is not an argument, it's just a slur and an unimaginative one.What happened when you told people they were poor because they lazy and stupid? Did you get a good response? Lol .Or did you just make it up in your own head.?