Rumour GFC 2019 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists.

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We wouldnt but he is a free agent and if he got a big money deal elsewhere (which i think is unlikely) i doubt we would match it.

He is a mid 20's FA , he will get an offer from someone.. just depends on how much and who..

I hope we can get him to stick around for another couple. ..but we do have a couple we need to sign up MOC is OOC as well. Lose Bews cause we keep 2e..not ideal to be honest.
 
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Was flicking through afl tables the other day and Fogarty has still played more games than MoC!
Second game live this yr i have seen the cat's (first was here in adl). I watched O'conner closely last week & he seriously looks so settled in the side and comfortable. Unless there is a big dip in form, can't see him getting dropped.

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Of course he would as a midfielder rather than a lock down defender.
There is literally no evidence to show that he could find the ball as a mid. When he was sent back to the 2s with a greater licence to hunt the footy - as he mentioned in interviews - he still didn't manage to find it with any regularity.
 
There is literally no evidence to show that he could find the ball as a mid. When he was sent back to the 2s with a greater licence to hunt the footy - as he mentioned in interviews - he still didn't manage to find it with any regularity.
Only realistic possibility could be as a tagger.
 

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There is literally no evidence to show that he could find the ball as a mid. When he was sent back to the 2s with a greater licence to hunt the footy - as he mentioned in interviews - he still didn't manage to find it with any regularity.

Then you have no evidence to the contrary either.
Greater license? How does that work unless he plays HBF.
 
I can't see that happening if the likes of Fogarty and Narkle put their hand up in the VFL to get selection. You wouldn't pick an unproven specialist tagger if there were kids you wanted to play.
I don’t think it’s likely either. Just pointing out that it’s a possibility when him being a ball winning mid clearly is not.

It’s also not the sort of thing Scott is known for trying.
 
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Then you have no evidence to the contrary either.
Greater license? How does that work unless he plays HBF.
He said that he'd been sent back to the VFL with an instruction to improve the attacking side of his game.

The evidence that he isn't a good ball-winner is in the sheer number of single-figure disposal tallies that he has accrued, well into his mid-twenties, at AFL level. No defender in other successful AFL sides accrues as little of the footy as he does - not even Lonergan did, and he was as dour a defender I have seen at Geelong for a while.
 

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He said that he'd been sent back to the VFL with an instruction to improve the attacking side of his game.

The evidence that he isn't a good ball-winner is in the sheer number of single-figure disposal tallies that he has accrued, well into his mid-twenties, at AFL level. No defender in other successful AFL sides accrues as little of the footy as he does - not even Lonergan did, and he was as dour a defender I have seen at Geelong for a while.

Ok.
 

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I like Bews and I’d be surprised if he left he is out of the team because of injury. While we do have some depth developing down back he’s still an important part of that group. If you strip the depth out of each line we will be left bare. Small defenders have been an issue for the team for a long time. This year we finally have some decent small and medium forwards. I would be adding to this rather than just seeing that as done. Letting forwards be forwards and midfielders play in their positions etc is a big reason the side looks so much better.
O’Connor is going ok but he’s got a way to go. Bews did some important jobs consistently for the team. Tuohy, Clark and Henry are all capable of playing further up the ground as well.
 
He said that he'd been sent back to the VFL with an instruction to improve the attacking side of his game.

The evidence that he isn't a good ball-winner is in the sheer number of single-figure disposal tallies that he has accrued, well into his mid-twenties, at AFL level. No defender in other successful AFL sides accrues as little of the footy as he does - not even Lonergan did, and he was as dour a defender I have seen at Geelong for a while.

Then what does that say for Henry who last year averaged less disposals than Bews (10.9 vs 10.5), and this year Henry's number have dropped to 6.5 disposals per game.

And I know that the disposals numbers for last year are similar, but so are the career averages for Bews (11) and Lonergan (11.6).

And prior to last year Bews had averaged 12.4 disposals the previous 2 seasons; so maybe the 10.9 disposal average last year was more the odd year compared to the norm of what we'd reasonably expect
 

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If Adelaide we’re willing to offload Jenkins cheap cats should look at that even though he’s 30. He’s not a long term option but he would be a great addition to the team. But if we were looking at short term options to help Hawkins and Esava there’s more of those options than the longer term ones.
Please no. I get great pleasure from laughing at my crows supporter friends for having Jenkins run around for them. I couldn’t watch him in Geelong colors.
 

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Not as exciting as finding our next key forward. But if we could get him cheap I’d like Lewis Taylor from the lions. He’s still only 24, has pace, kicks goals and was a rising star winner. Yes he is small and we have finally found some players to play small forward role. But I think he would fit very nicely into our team.
The fact he is not getting a game and is out of contract should mean he would not cost a lot in trade value. Also he’s a former geelong falcon so fits our recruiting model.
The mystery mid?
 
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Not as exciting as finding our next key forward. But if we could get him cheap I’d like Lewis Taylor from the lions. He’s still only 24, has pace, kicks goals and was a rising star winner. Yes he is small and we have finally found some players to play small forward role. But I think he would fit very nicely into our team.
The fact he is not getting a game and is out of contract should mean he would not cost a lot in trade value. Also he’s a former geelong falcon so fits our recruiting model.
Completely agree. Especially given that our best midfielders are 29, nearly 31, and heading back to WA at the end of the season, we could do with a ready-made small and he'd fit the bill. Longer-term he'd probably play GAJ's current role forward of the ball.

Given he has spent the first five weeks in the NEAFL, I'd be surprised if he was happy there at the moment.

Of course, the other out-of-contract player at the Lions is some young fellow by the name of Christensen...
 
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Then what does that say for Henry who last year averaged less disposals than Bews (10.9 vs 10.5), and this year Henry's number have dropped to 6.5 disposals per game.

And I know that the disposals numbers for last year are similar, but so are the career averages for Bews (11) and Lonergan (11.6).

And prior to last year Bews had averaged 12.4 disposals the previous 2 seasons; so maybe the 10.9 disposal average last year was more the odd year compared to the norm of what we'd reasonably expect
For mine, that's a byproduct of it being Jack Henry's first year of AFL football, as a skinny kid off the rookie list. He is 20 and can improve; Bews is 25. That said, he is really struggling this year and will probably be dropped for Jordan Clark next week.

Lonergan was a tall lockdown defender who played on the opposition's best goalkicker every week; Bews is not doing that unless he's playing Adelaide. Winning the footy isn't such a big deal for taller defenders, partially because they're a liability with it.
 
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... Apparently , The Age podcast reported that Tim Kelly's manager toured the Fremantle FC facilities recently ... I suppose they are being a little more switched on this year...

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/04...de-update-on-tomlinson-martin-kelly-and-more/

Tim Kelly (Geelong)

“The Cats behind the scenes are expecting him to again request a trade.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/04...de-update-on-tomlinson-martin-kelly-and-more/

Nothing really new here... except id say the last couple of years the media have seemed to get hold of info (player managers imo) if we are interested in a player at the end of the year... yet Im yet to read anything that says we are looking at someone serious.

Haw and Freo linked to Coniglio. Haw using JOM to lure Coniglio ?I doubt Freo has money for Conglio and Kelly ? And Stk is continully linked... to just about everyone..Martin would be a good get for them. Obviously they see Hannaberry as just the thin end of the edge..they wish to leverage their form and the move back to Morrabbin.. which listening to guys like DalSanto and Riewoldt was dire. So plenty of noise out there , even this early yet... I have not read anything.

Its interesting that West Coast have selected Brander and Venebles this week... "Fattening the Calf ?" "Showing a bit of leg?" Not sure ..but its not a myth that players who performs well V a side often gathers their attention. Perhaps guys like these are a good outcome .. the time put in and the picks used ..one would have to be very sure of who we are going to pick to at draft. Brander P13 2017 , Venebles P13 2016.. I have a slight reluctance.. when was the last time we ever got a good player of wc?

As I have stated before I believe in youth , what we have done this year has been great reward for bringing in talent younger than 24. I look at Port and applaude their efforts.. they appear to have really nailed their picks. Id be happy to use any picks we get from Kelly at the draft and then look at where we are in 2020. The counter to this ..draft strength this year? And if we had a chance to get a rare type player. I could understand why we would go for a player with AA selection potential.

Id doubt anyone thinks Geelong pulled the wrong reign getting Danger. A level down from this 2E and Ablett (even at his age) appear to been clever draft shuffles which really have not hurt us.Henderson is probably debatable...if he was a FA it would have been fine. Obviously there will be some sort of baragin type around that we could get cheap , this time last year I doubt any of us though Rohan would be our best goal kicker..

If Kelly requests the trade it probably gets down to what picks we can get from WC... I doubt WC finish low enough to give us a single figure pick.
 
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As I have stated before I believe in youth , what we have done this year has been great reward for bringing in talent younger than 24. I look at Port and applaude their efforts.. they appear to have really nailed their picks. Id be happy to use any picks we get from Kelly at the draft and then look at where we are in 2020. The counter to this ..draft strength this year? And if we had a chance to get a rare type player. I could understand why we would go for a player with AA selection potential.
I think this is the last year where we could be in premiership contention, simply on the basis of Dangerfield, Selwood, GAJ and Hawkins moving into the decline end of their careers, and Kelly's imminent departure.

I'd be happy to take what we can to the draft, and tinker round the edges with free agency to keep ourselves competitive. There's a few I'd like to look at:
- Brandon Ellis - RFA, and was undeservedly dropped for the finals last year. Also seemingly fits the Good Bloke criteria.
- Coniglio and Tomlinson, obviously (but good luck).
- Liberatore could be worth a look if he wants a fresh start.
 
I think this is the last year where we could be in premiership contention
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I think this is the last year where we could be in premiership contention, simply on the basis of Dangerfield, Selwood, GAJ and Hawkins moving into the decline end of their careers, and Kelly's imminent departure.

I'd be happy to take what we can to the draft, and tinker round the edges with free agency to keep ourselves competitive. There's a few I'd like to look at:
- Brandon Ellis - RFA, and was undeservedly dropped for the finals last year. Also seemingly fits the Good Bloke criteria.
- Coniglio and Tomlinson, obviously (but good luck).
- Liberatore could be worth a look if he wants a fresh start.

I think there is a narrow margin to recruit/trade just because of the perception of "inthewindow".. Clarke , Atkins , Dahl , Rohan ..have all enhanced our ability to be in contention.. draft doesnt always have to mean for three years time. Im not excluding mature players..just that we have to be mindful that there is a cost. FA are free hit really and even for them there will be some sort of fall out as they take someones spot
 
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