Our team is crying out for a Cutler type of player, which we have and refuse to utilise. In our top 10 players and Fagan refuses to play in favour of countless pets. I’d rather Cutler be contracted and Fagan delisted.
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I don't know whether toOur team is crying out for a Cutler type of player, which we have and refuse to utilise. In our top 10 players and Fagan refuses to play in favour of countless pets. I’d rather Cutler be contracted and Fagan delisted.
I wondered how you were related to Cutler, and I think I've finally worked it out.Our team is crying out for a Cutler type of player, which we have and refuse to utilise. In our top 10 players and Fagan refuses to play in favour of countless pets. I’d rather Cutler be contracted and Fagan delisted.
we invested too much time into him to let him go.. he needs a solid year to get his feet again. When you watch him play you get great glimpses.
Off the top of my head and very quick searches (so if someone knows better happy to be corrected) :I hope you’re right and he is doing enough to deserve 2 years.
I haven’t watched much of the reserves maybe 2 full games on YouTube, but the thing about Skinner is he is now 22 and 4 years on the list. He doesn’t seem to be getting in the best or listed as an emergency like Wooler, ballenden, and maybe doesn’t have the upside and comparative inexperience of Payne and Fullarton.
We have invested a lot but also need to consider if it’s worth holding a list spot longer for a 22yo with 2 afl games with potentially 3/4 younger players ahead of him and 2/3 more experienced players (Adams/walker) on the list as insurance. And it’s not like any of our kpp in the team are close to retirement.
It might make sense to move him on (or rookie him in place of eagles) and get a younger kpp in through the draft to develop.
I hope the turnover this year is limited to 6 or 7. We are fairly stable now as a club and the days of turning over big numbers should be behind us.
I hope Keays can get another crack and an extended run but I'm not sure it's going to happen.
I'm with Dylan on Cutler. He will leave for sure and our coaching staff will talk about trying to add a pacy athletic outside midfielder to the list during the trade/draft period.
I think Skinner and Lester remain on the list but Basti and Christensen are gone as well as Eagles. It wouldn't suprise me to see three retirements in Hodge, Martin and Christensen.
IMO Josh Walker is reasonable depth if playing as the main intercepting defender ie. in the Harris Andrews type role. He's obviously not as good at it as Harris but your depth cover is never going to be as good as your 1st 22 players, they just need to play their role as best as possible.I cannot see Walker getting another game now Adams has been anointed. Walker is someone who is not going to be given a chance to play for his career. His career at Brisbane is finished.
He will be picked up by other clubs but I don't think he has any trade value.
Walker probably gets a better contract offer to return to Victoria, than he does to stay at the Lions.IMO Josh Walker is reasonable depth if playing as the main intercepting defender ie. in the Harris Andrews type role. He's obviously not as good at it as Harris but your depth cover is never going to be as good as your 1st 22 players, they just need to play their role as best as possible.
If Fagan and co. see either Jack Payne, Sam Skinner or Connor Ballenden as ready and adequate cover in that role maybe Walker gets moved on.
The noise about one big name player or something to that effect leaving is concerning. I've only heard it mentioned on this board a few times, but concerning nonetheless.Walker probably gets a better contract offer to return to Victoria, than he does to stay at the Lions.
I believe Cutler will ask for a trade back to Victoria.
I have absolutely no idea of trade targets, so have no idea how many list spots the recruiting team will want for the trade and draft period.
I'm starting to think, that apart from McStay, every other current out of contract player might have only been offered a 1 year deal, and that's why we haven't seen more announcements of player signing on.
Depends who you class as a big name player.The noise about one big name player or something to that effect leaving is concerning. I've only heard it mentioned on this board a few times, but concerning nonetheless.
I reckon you have it right, maybe Hinge would be a bit safer it seems Fagan likes his dedication he did have high praise for him when selected in the seniors. I always thought Qld players take longer to develop, Drummond, Bushy, Charmon etc so I think Keays will probably be extended as he still is improving, that is if he doesn't want a trade. I also think, like Oscar they will bring another 'project' ruckman into the club, rather than look into the draft for one they will pick one out of the state leagues. I think it's a year when no to many clubs are looking for ruckman, mate GWS and Richmond only with us and Carlton thinking about it. Good year to get a cheap one and develop them ourselves and save all draft picks for midfield types. I'm not sure about McStay, if we have heard nothing in the next few weeks I'd say he is going and given we would have a few contracts to upgrade coming up i don't think we could match a big deal he might get from Victoria.With the extension of Mitch Robinson's and Jack Payne's contracts the list of possible candidates for delisting at the end of this year is getting shorter. The players I see as 100% certain to be on the list next year are Stefan Martin, Sam Skinner, Daniel McStay, Allen Christensen and Ryan Lester leaving the highlighted players as the ones under the pump given Hodgey retires.
2019:
Ryan Bastinac(R)
Stefan Martin
Lewis Taylor
Tom Cutler
Ben Keays
Sam Skinner
Daniel McStay
Nicholas Robertson
Corey Lyons
Luke Hodge
Allen Christensen
Matt Eagles(R)
Mitchell Hinge(R)
Josh Walker
Ryan Lester
The deeper the season goes the more worried these players will be getting.
I think the Suns could do a lot worse than have a look at Eagles next year. Keays might get an extension after last weeks game. Yes, some hard calls coming upWith the extension of Mitch Robinson's and Jack Payne's contracts the list of possible candidates for delisting at the end of this year is getting shorter. The players I see as 100% certain to be on the list next year are Stefan Martin, Sam Skinner, Daniel McStay, Allen Christensen and Ryan Lester leaving the highlighted players as the ones under the pump given Hodgey retires.
2019:
Ryan Bastinac(R)
Stefan Martin
Lewis Taylor
Tom Cutler
Ben Keays
Sam Skinner
Daniel McStay
Nicholas Robertson
Corey Lyons
Luke Hodge
Allen Christensen
Matt Eagles(R)
Mitchell Hinge(R)
Josh Walker
Ryan Lester
The deeper the season goes the more worried these players will be getting.
Highly unlikely Dan is offered a big deal based on his performances thus far in his career. 24 years old, 95 games in his 6th year. His season this year has been significantly better I admit, but he is a long way off being a player who clubs would offer big $ in my opinion. Big money players are expected to do a lot more than Dan does each week.I reckon you have it right, maybe Hinge would be a bit safer it seems Fagan likes his dedication he did have high praise for him when selected in the seniors. I always thought Qld players take longer to develop, Drummond, Bushy, Charmon etc so I think Keays will probably be extended as he still is improving, that is if he doesn't want a trade. I also think, like Oscar they will bring another 'project' ruckman into the club, rather than look into the draft for one they will pick one out of the state leagues. I think it's a year when no to many clubs are looking for ruckman, mate GWS and Richmond only with us and Carlton thinking about it. Good year to get a cheap one and develop them ourselves and save all draft picks for midfield types. I'm not sure about McStay, if we have heard nothing in the next few weeks I'd say he is going and given we would have a few contracts to upgrade coming up i don't think we could match a big deal he might get from Victoria.