Review R18: Adelaide v Essendon post-mortem (...please don't disturb our team, we're dead tired)
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No he's not
Didn't watch the second half but when I awoke at 3am I was not in the least surprised.
I will not be renewing beyond this season until I see real change in the club.
A few realities I have come to understand this year:
- The core playing list will not win us a premiership (Sloane, Tex, Betts, Jenkins, Laird, Crouches, Talia, etc)
- This coaching panel does not have what it takes to make the necessary changes and develop a game plan/attitudes to bring us success.
- The football administration is not efficient or ruthless enough.
Some changes I want to see:
Coaches - Sack Campo, Hart & Clarke (Clarke has been given a pass because of his success with the AFLW team but I believe that group of players were good enough to win no matter who was coaching them)
Players - Time to move on Mackay, Douglas, Jacobs, Otten, Laird. Tex, Betts & Talia to retire over the next few years.
Admin - Time to * off Burton. I loved him as a player (hence the username) but he is in no way the best man for the job. Hass to go as well.
We have deluded ourselves into thinking we are close to a premiership since we almost got one in 17. That team of players were blamed for that day and I believe they will never forgive the coaches for doing so and then putting them through a camp to mentally toughen up. We need to accept we are probably 5-10 years off competing again.
I will not be renewing beyond this season until I see real change in the club.
A few realities I have come to understand this year:
- The core playing list will not win us a premiership (Sloane, Tex, Betts, Jenkins, Laird, Crouches, Talia, etc)
- This coaching panel does not have what it takes to make the necessary changes and develop a game plan/attitudes to bring us success.
- The football administration is not efficient or ruthless enough.
Some changes I want to see:
Coaches - Sack Campo, Hart & Clarke (Clarke has been given a pass because of his success with the AFLW team but I believe that group of players were good enough to win no matter who was coaching them)
Players - Time to move on Mackay, Douglas, Jacobs, Otten, Laird. Tex, Betts & Talia to retire over the next few years.
Admin - Time to * off Burton. I loved him as a player (hence the username) but he is in no way the best man for the job. Hass to go as well.
We have deluded ourselves into thinking we are close to a premiership since we almost got one in 17. That team of players were blamed for that day and I believe they will never forgive the coaches for doing so and then putting them through a camp to mentally toughen up. We need to accept we are probably 5-10 years off competing again.
Brown is not on the table very important player
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I think everyone is forgetting just how good we were against Gold Coast..
MelbourneCrow
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Awful last night, from the minute we didn't chase back for those last two first half goals.
And we couldn't hold anyone in the tackle. That has been going on from years.
Got fed up with the commentators talking about Essendon's inferior personnel (from their best 18) - they had an abundance of single digit draft picks out there, the ones we just don't have access to. And when we might do for once, Carlton start winning (under someone I would like to have coaching us next year) and we could well slip down to Pick 5 or something.
We are in the middle of five games where I put us down for at least 4 wins - Port and Essendon have already beaten us in that streak.
I have to go and watch this cr*p next week. Any thoughts of 'well we won't come up with that rubbish again' are put to sleep with the club's apparent lack of embarrassment about the Port defeat. Just what does Pyke say to the players at half time exactly? Anyone who knows soccer will understand when I say he is fast becoming the Maurizio Sarri of AFL.
And we couldn't hold anyone in the tackle. That has been going on from years.
Got fed up with the commentators talking about Essendon's inferior personnel (from their best 18) - they had an abundance of single digit draft picks out there, the ones we just don't have access to. And when we might do for once, Carlton start winning (under someone I would like to have coaching us next year) and we could well slip down to Pick 5 or something.
We are in the middle of five games where I put us down for at least 4 wins - Port and Essendon have already beaten us in that streak.
I have to go and watch this cr*p next week. Any thoughts of 'well we won't come up with that rubbish again' are put to sleep with the club's apparent lack of embarrassment about the Port defeat. Just what does Pyke say to the players at half time exactly? Anyone who knows soccer will understand when I say he is fast becoming the Maurizio Sarri of AFL.
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Gonna be an expensive exercise playing half these guys in the reserves for a season and a half. I can’t see Walker Betts or Talia being physically capable of lasting any longer than half of next season, even after yet another best ever pre-season.
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Nah
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So we play a team noted for their pace and we leave gooch, Jones and Stengle out! WTF
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I think everyone is forgetting how good Hamish is
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When's the Annual General Meeting this year? These clowns need to be told very clearly how badly they are failing.
This is turning into yet another wasted season. There seems to be no imagination / appetite for risk. We can't keep loosing good players year after year and not think there is a big cultural issue at the club. Wholesale changes required, starting at the top.
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That’s true to a degree. I’d love to see the stats but Milera wasn’t in the middle anywhere near often enough.
That said, Tex loses most one on ones when the lace out pass fails to come, then is incapable of chasing. In a forward line nicknamed The Trampoline he’s one of the big problems.
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Except we’re going to roll over and get beaten by Carlton and make that pick drop back a place or two. Watch this space.
Milera was one of the only players who passed to him.
For all the talk Milera spent * all time in the midfield and I hope our Essendon friend does the stats again because I suspect Smith did as well. We reverted back to Matt, Brad and Sloane. Only in the last did we make any change.
I get that about Tex and he is getting on, but it doesn’t discount the fact our players don’t pass to him. If they hit him with one pass a quarter that’s 2-3 goals a game. I reckon I counted about 10 leads by half time that weren’t honoured. To me that shows we have far bigger issues than Tex, our players lack composure and skill, that won’t be improved when Tex goes.
Something that would need to be developed over a preseason. This has been happening for 20 years including the GF year. Fold when it gets tough
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Our tackling is atrocious, we couldn’t stop them from running the ball when we inevitably turned the ball over.
We have no forward half pressure to create turnovers ourselves.
It amazes me that with all of the analysis that the coaching staff and players carry out that we have not seen any major changes in an effort to sort out these two major issues.
At one stage Dylan Shiel ran from halfback through the middle of the ground and at least 4 of our players refused to put pressure on him, so he kept running and kicked a goal from 50, this just optimised our lack of pressure.
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We have no forward half pressure to create turnovers ourselves.
It amazes me that with all of the analysis that the coaching staff and players carry out that we have not seen any major changes in an effort to sort out these two major issues.
At one stage Dylan Shiel ran from halfback through the middle of the ground and at least 4 of our players refused to put pressure on him, so he kept running and kicked a goal from 50, this just optimised our lack of pressure.
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Mate I just had to come in here and applaud your taste in music. Legend!
Good luck to all the Adelaide supporters - hope you guys still make finals. Your first half field kicking in particular was sublime.
Unfortunately, yes. Eddie as well. Certainly Douglas.
The midfield escapes scrutiny with the coaches because they prob just look at clearance stats and possession counts and say ‘well done boys’
What about tackles, defensive running, missed passes, wrong options etc etc.
Sloane was utterly disgraceful last night...have we ever had a star player so useless at coping with a tag? Not only did his possession count drop but his skills were deplorable. Is something going wrong in private life? His head doesn’t seem in the game.
Matt honestly doesn’t care one bit about the damage his opponents do. It’s all about sagging off to receive a handball or short kick then give off the same, preferably with a one-two to boost the numbers. His metres gained per possession would be near the lowest in the league.
Brad also doesn’t care about the team defence. Also stat pads. He just does it with more pace but lacks Matt’s composure. His kicking skills and decision making are so substandard. He’s almost in Ollie Wines territory.
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