Mega Thread Coronavirus & the AFL - season postponed. Part 2 * CONTINUED ABUSE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED *
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EFA - remember, player a) is 18 or 19 years old, hasn't bought a house and will move back in with Mum and Dad
Plenty of people would be really happy to earn between 65 and 100k for doing nothing, knowing they have a job again in 2021
Agree with sentiment of pulling together
We are seeing that with the National Cabinet (a good thing) but wonder if it's an idea to go next step on this and bring the opposition leader into the Cabinet
So ... zero evidence; nada; nothing. You just made it up.
Do you have a counter argument to do this or explain differently why these numbers are so skewed?
Maybe you should've have prepared earlier. I haven't had to shut my doors yet.
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If they'd shut the borders completely when it started to break out, the internal economy would have remained active; as it is, the economy is ****ed both domestically and internationally, and the virus is continuing to spread. The entire response has been far too little, much too late. They've just created a commision made up of rich people in a last ditch attempt to salvage something economically (well at least for the rich, who are of least concern in that regard). They're losing both battles presently and need to pick one, whilst giving up the other. Let's hope, for our sakes, that it's the correct one.
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The only one's who are or will be panicking are the one's who didn't take it seriously enough sooner.
Some parts of that speech are downright eerie.
Such a pity for humanity that we're saddled with political power mongers at the head of the table instead of visionaries like him.
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The National Cabinet should be as small as possible - decision makers only, and a few medical advisors. The more people you have in a meeting, the more time wasting & the fewer things get done. PM and Opposition Leader should be (and no doubt are) discussing matters at other times.
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Lol what kind of ridiculous call is that, Nobody wants it to be bad.
No reliable information is more important at the moment always has been. This has been the issue since the beginning!
I posed the question is the Chinese government reliable with accurate information the only question I posed. If you answer that truthfully that's it end of conversation.
The accuracy of the numbers is disputed across the world not just the U.S or Hong Kong who have "motives".
Those numbers are vitally important for everyone else to help beat the virus elsewhere. Great for China they are allegedly up and about it's not good news for the rest of the world yet unless someone cracks out a vaccine.
In the 1950's the Chinese signed a sino-Soviet agreement for "socialism" with the USSR.
This is why I'm skeptical with the Chinese statistics on the initial figures and current figures. And smarter people than us could debate that fact I'm not one way or the other, do you believe the world had accurate information on the threat initially ?
People have literally gone missing
you can tell me all day these numbers are accurate. When the rest of the world can't make accurate guesses at this present time. So to presume it's "all good" when no vaccine is available in the country with 1.4 billion people I think there is a fair way to go on all fronts. Before china raises the flag with resounding victory
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You live in Wuhan or Hubei?
What does this have to do with your unsupported claim that Wuhan coming out of lockdown is causing a new epidemic?
Are you just trying to say you're suspicious? Fine. So just say that then instead of making false claims.
You haven't countered anything in it. I'll just post it again.
To those that still trust China
How Many Coronavirus Cases in China? Officials Tweak the Answer (Published 2020)
China’s health authorities have decided to no longer count as confirmed cases those patients who test positive but don’t show symptoms. Skepticism was immediate.www.nytimes.com
That was reported on Feb 12, the highest recorded cases by any one nation with 14,108 recorded in a single day by China.
The following day it dropped to 5000 in one day! The following day it was around 2000 and a week later by Feb 19 China had reported only 391 cases that day.
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Did they miraculously have a vaccine already and forgot to tell us?
Below is another graph that's interesting for comaprison. Death rates and recovery rates compared linearly for Italy, Spain and the US.
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The reports coming from the ICU's Italy from medical staff confirms that once you are there you either die or recover. Around final outcomes recorded half are recoveries and half are fatalaties.
This was true for China at the beginning. Then miraculously like a synchronized clock they all just started recovering.
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Now you could argue that China were better prepared to put measures in place to begin with to stop the virus spreading but then that doesn't explain how there was 14,000 reported cases in one day. Or how a province like Hubei with twice the population and the same density as the North of Italy manage to contain in one or two weeks when they had spent that much time denying it existed and even after that denied it could be transmitted from human to human. Does that sound to you like a government that was on top of it the virus or suppressing information?
Got a link?
It's more a goodwill gesture than anything
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people in financial management deal with much more complex situations. this is just a smokescreen for the aflpa. surely noone thinks theyre so stupid as to be unable to calculate a reasonable outcome in that kind of case given the current situation. if they really are that dumb, then they need new leadership.
You made a specific claim that Wuhan coming out of lockdown was causing a new epidemic. I called you on it.
So either provide evidence that your claim wasn't a falsehood or go away.
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Agreed, they should have their 2020 season first rounder taken off them.
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You absolute goose, the government enforced my closure... Whilst it is not dire for me and I will re-open, it is still a big challenge for me and my staff and the 1700 people we service daily. You are deer with no eyes Roby, deadset campaigner.
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agreed, im the same, but i dont think people have been 'not listening' because of left/right bias. theyre the kind who ignore the advice of the professionals advising the gov and who (who have actually spent time studying the virus), but think they know better because they saw something on the news. Basically anti-vaxxers, the religious, the people who use the weather outside today to deny climate change, the people who treat illness with onion water instead, the chakra lovers etc. People from both ends of the political spectrum of the super hippy left to the self important right.
I've not agreed with much of what you've said in this thread and think you got caught behind the curve, but yeah, this was out of line. What could you possibly have been expected to do running a business that's been asked to close? I feel for you and your staff mate and hope you all get through all this without too much damage. Chin up!
Interested to see what paddy Dangerfield says about the player pay cuts.
Forever the agreeable, wanting to be good guy type, he needs to stand tall here.
If he is to live up to his good guy persona he’ll lead from the front in the players association and demand players take the sort of pay cut that reflects what the broader community is going through and less importantly the potential survival of the clubs and league.
Forever the agreeable, wanting to be good guy type, he needs to stand tall here.
If he is to live up to his good guy persona he’ll lead from the front in the players association and demand players take the sort of pay cut that reflects what the broader community is going through and less importantly the potential survival of the clubs and league.
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same comment from me as from monkey king
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Where do you get that from? In my opinion Dangerfield is a sociopath with a thin layer of "good guy" outer skin to mask it. In reality he only cares about making more money for less work, his dream outcome would be 10 minute quarters and a 500 % payrise. Deep down he would probably trade the AFL never coming back in exchange for $20 million into a Swiss bank account in his name. Anyway thats just my impression
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