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He could well do both by the looks - intercept and run/kick away. He's a gem.
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Let the others guys get comparisons to Buckley, Dangerfield, Judd. We finally got to take the Hodge pick.
Young will just have to make do with Norm Smiths.
Young will just have to make do with Norm Smiths.
With Serongs hands in close, i hope we also get to take the Sam Mitchell pick.
Sam Mitchell is the guy I used to console myself when we pick small and or slow players, that dude was amazing for a bloke that had very little going for him physically. Good agility and balance and that's it.
****ing amazing vision, ridiculous handballer and accurate kick over 40 meters on both feet.
If Serong can do that we'll kick ass.
****ing amazing vision, ridiculous handballer and accurate kick over 40 meters on both feet.
If Serong can do that we'll kick ass.
I stand by it. I personally have seen nothing to suggest he’s an elite kick ever. He’s elite at intercepting and is an above average player in general based off mostly that, especially based off last season. His kicking skills are nothing special and are massively overrated by our supporters imo.
Almost none of our players are overrated by the general football public who seem to think our side is nothing but Fyfe and Walters.
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Young absolutely robbed for Rising star 
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Young absolutely robbed for Rising star
The guy played like a seasoned veteran
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I know this is the Young thread but pretty sure Ryan’s kicking efficiency was consistently 80%+ last season.
On the topic of Young I’m tipping him to get his first goal and a rising star nom this week
So to clarify you've seen NOTHING to suggest he's an elite kick?
I know this is the Young thread but pretty sure Ryan’s kicking efficiency was consistently 80%+ last season.
On the topic of Young I’m tipping him to get his first goal and a rising star nom this week
Aren’t all kicks over 40m to a 50/50 contest considered effective? Considering Ryan bombs it long most chances he gets that’d explain it.
Point is disposal/kicking efficiency is a garbage stat to the point where it should almost be ignored completely.
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If someone can show me more than a hand full of examples of kicks from Ryan they’d consider elite I’d be very surprised.
The other thing that isn’t highlighted about the stat is it varies massively depending on the position a player plays.
I can’t remember what year it was but I once looked at the disposal efficiency for our side throughout that year and our first choice back six were all in the top ten. Zac Dawson was one of those back six. If that doesn’t show the stat is close to useless, I don’t know what does.
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Defenders have higher disposal efficiencies due to taking safer options. Sideways kicks and long kicks down the line will generally be classed as effective disposals but are less likely to help the team score than other options.
Young won’t have as high of a disposal efficiency than Ryan, largely because he’s a better kick (therefore taking riskier, more beneficial options). That’s how dumb the stat actually is.
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I feel it’s a little bit unfair on Ryan to be critiquing his kicking on a Hayden Young thread.
In a team that gets constantly butchered on turnovers we should be glad we have a guy who is able to repel the opposition in the air, clear the ball out of our back line and turn it directly over less than 18% of the time.
In a team that gets constantly butchered on turnovers we should be glad we have a guy who is able to repel the opposition in the air, clear the ball out of our back line and turn it directly over less than 18% of the time.
yeah while i dont think its not unreasonable to say ryan 'does not have an elite kick he is still a very good one.
And above all a very good player period.
Now back to young , tiny sample size but already looks like he could be a very special player.
Someone mentioned hodge earlier,(not sure yet on that one) but Hopefully like hodge he can go onto be our Mr fix it, as his assets are just so valuable I hope they're utilised all over the ground depending on the scenario
And above all a very good player period.
Now back to young , tiny sample size but already looks like he could be a very special player.
Someone mentioned hodge earlier,(not sure yet on that one) but Hopefully like hodge he can go onto be our Mr fix it, as his assets are just so valuable I hope they're utilised all over the ground depending on the scenario
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There is a stat recorded by champion data where they measure the difficulty of the kicks, I can't remember the exact name of it at the moment but the general idea is that the league has kicks that everyone should hit all the time all the way to kicks that rarely hit the target, pressure etc, and compare the players kicking across the league by those standards.
I haven't seen a report on it for a while but that's the stat that will settle it once and for all. It's why I'd expect someone who attempts the risky but damaging kick to score higher than the 20 sideways kicks to zero pressure.
Kick rating.
The best and worst kicks in the AFL according to Champion Data
There are some big names at the bottom end of the list!
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Sorry, I thought you were discussing Young.
Wrong thread mate, you have to go to the Luke Ryan thread to discuss Young.
Kick rating.
The best and worst kicks in the AFL according to Champion Data
There are some big names at the bottom end of the list!
"In a twist of fate, Andrew Brayshaw joined Gaff in the low levels of effective possession, with the 19-year-old operating at -20%."
ugh
Played a lot on a wing today with Duman taking his HB spot. Not Hayden’s best game but worth considering I think.
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