Strapping Young Lad
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Maybe that’s what it’s all aboutYeah think this has jumped the shark for mine .... might stick to seeing which elite mid we are getting this draft
Given the circumstances with the Pies job being available to Mitch, I don't know how else it could have been handled.Do you think it’s been handled well? It’s not what I’ve come to expect from our club.
I have no issue with the decision, I just felt the whole announcement and the communication up until yesterday has been pretty average. Which is why we’ve had to listen to so much rubbish from the media. It’s not what I would call ideal.
Imagine the media narrative had we extended Clarko and lost Sam to the Pies!!!It’s easier to just whinge
But he couldn't commit post that.....AC has told a number of people at the HFC he would be more than happy to commit to 2025.
Kennett and his Board have handled this poorly.
Clarkson didn't bring Mitchell back for him to then spend 7+ years as an assistantMy read from undisputed public information and other sources:
-2018: Clarkson coerces Mitchell into coming back to Hawthorn with an unclear long term view of him taking over at some point in time; Board extends Clarkson to 2022, Clarkson/board unclear if he will still have the energy to coach beyond 2022.
-2020: Board views Clarkson as done at end of contract; sees Mitchell as likely successor appoints -him @ Box Hill for 2021
-2021: Clarkson, reinvigorated by young prospects, has passion for coaching beyond 2023 (could commit to an additional 5 years or so). Hears Mitchell engaged in Collingwood coaching process, goes to board seeking an extension of his contract believing he will get it on the basis that the board still has faith in him, and that their chosen successor (Mitchell) has been thwarted. At worst, in Clarkson’s eyes, he gets a two year extension with Mitchell staying on being a secondary priority to his own future.
Board boldly pulls the trigger on Mitchell and offers him the job from 2023 onwards. Board doesn’t consult with Clarkson. Key stakeholders (Reeves + Kennett and OTHER board members) had formed the view that Mitchell would take over from Clarkson in 2023 at latest March this year. These announcements/discussions would have occurred at the end of the season with the board being comfortable for Clarkson to take a job elsewhere 2022 onwards. Clarkson largely unaware of the writing on the wall internally regarding his future.
It appears the sycophantic board has completely blindsided Clarkson hence the public, partly media induced, leaking from multiple parties.
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Given the circumstances with the Pies job being available to Mitch, I don't know how else it could have been handled.
I'm genuinely curious to what others think the Club could have done better.
AC has told a number of people at the HFC he would be more than happy to commit to 2025.
Kennett and his Board have handled this poorly.
But he couldn't commit post that.....
As expected Jeff not pulling any punches here; "I don't watch the show and I suspect many of you do not as well" - BANG!!!!!
Must admit haven't listened to him lately, but have always found him to be very level headed in all conversations. Maybe as you say ,he speaks well like a politician.Hmmm. Have you been listening to Gerard lately buying into the whole mess and suggesting it will fail? He has run through it on his radio show and then doubled down with Robbo on his Tv Show .
Gerard is a politician. He knows when to hold them and when to fold them. He plays his role very well and will change with the breeze depending on what the general feeling is.
Maybe that’s what it’s all about
Funnily enough, Sam's contract is also only to end 2025.
So I guess you can say he hasnt committed beyond then either
I started reading the letter and had a hard time moving past this doozy:
I will never forget the scribblings of former coach Allan Jeans who wrote before a Grand Final we won, “if you win the tackles, you win the game”.
Such was the case on Saturday when we delivered 81 tackles to Melbourne’s 60.
Are you the riddler?Double dipping fail.
Bargain chip fail.
Undermine fail.
Rival wants more fail.
Attempts to drag HFC thru mud with leaks.Bad move fail
Facts favour HFC pass.
Amateur political game playing fail
HFC will come out the other end much better pass.
Clearly I do not agree with the initial decision, that said, I love Sam Mitchell, but why do we think he is the individual to take over from AC, what is the process of due diligence about such a decision ??
Look, Kennett wanted Sam, Kennett wanted AC replaced, Kennett convinced his Board, Exec (he just reappointed the silent CEO for five years….quietly), then turned his hand to the footy dept, and when he got them on side conjured up the succession plan so he did not have to pay out $1.2m plus.
Finally, do you think every player recruited to our Club within the failed List Management strategy did not need to be signed of by the Board and its President. Of course not. This decision “protects and distracts” the President and Board from holding the necessary responsibility for the earlier strategy. They are equally if not more culpable for the decisions made. After all THEY are your Board or so Mr Kennett, the prince of all corporate governance constantly reminds us of.
I am staggered HFC people are so trusting.
Yep, yawn. They are going to stir up the Lewis/Clarkson angle only now the Clarkson/Kennett angle as hard as they can. See if they can get Clarkson to talk on it. Whately is a little turd, I guess. Can't help but do the New Idea gossip angle.
Were I a journalist, here are some questions I would be interested to ask:
- You played with many of the men in the side. How will you deal with that level of familiarity? What happens when it's time to cut Gunston?
- Many say Clarkson has gone a little stale, yet you played and coached virtually your entire career under him. How are you fresh?
- Where is the game going and why?
- You've got list and development responsibilities for the next 18 months. What does Hawthorn need?
And maybe a few more. Instead? Kardashians. Frickin disgraceful efforts by the media.
“Right now, what I am doing is starting to look at the under 18s, the draft, list profiling, how successful teams have built their list, and list management strategies,” he said.
While he did not want to go into detail about the club’s long-term strategies, Mitchell said: “We are certainly going to go to the draft this year and next year.”
They made that decision, told said coach, then approached favourite son, who fortunately said yes and we move on.