Yeah I've noticed that increasing of late. To all of you I say stop it, that's my job.Some people say the most stupid things on this board.
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Yeah I've noticed that increasing of late. To all of you I say stop it, that's my job.Some people say the most stupid things on this board.
He treats the supporters like mindless idiots, but he is the arrogant idiotAfter hearing Koch this morning I'm done.
Best post of the year!Nah, they're sick of being treated like cash vendors in perpetuity by a bunch of people who rate stability (whatever that is) over success, then being fed a bunch of meaningless platitudes by this unaccountable mob of buffoons everytime a season goes belly up.
That's ok, you can go and hold your scarf in the air and sing Never Tear Us Apart. That's entirely your choice. Doesn't mean everyone else is bound to your rules.
If the club would sack Ken rather than extending his contract for no reason then I would be stumping up the money to renew, hell I would even contribute to a go fund me to pay him out. This deniability from Koch and co. that Port doesn’t have real problems with their coaching and game plan is deplorable.Not renewing makes you part of the problem and not part of the solution, it's that simple. There is not one example of an AFL club becoming successful on the back of a stack of supporters jumping off and 'sending a message' to the people who run the club. The reality of withdrawing your support is that the club will lose money, start cutting its spending and on field performance will go backwards not forwards. It's counter productive crap.
Has any club become successful by patronising their fans for pointing our their mistakes?Not renewing makes you part of the problem and not part of the solution, it's that simple. There is not one example of an AFL club becoming successful on the back of a stack of supporters jumping off and 'sending a message' to the people who run the club. The reality of withdrawing your support is that the club will lose money, start cutting its spending and on field performance will go backwards not forwards. It's counter productive crap.
Maybe you should re read what I was said. I was replying to someone who said people might not renew because of job loses in the past year or so and I'm saying BS. Not even sure why that was bought up...wow impressive mate you must've been educated at Prince Alfred College to have such thought provoking ideas. if we won the Prelim instead of being humiliated, you think nobody would be complaining? very eye opening and intriguing, very deep
I’m in for next year, but will never get seduced my this club again.
they can win 20 in a row next year and I’m going to refuse to get seduced.
my lad said to me why I wasn’t totally devastated last night, I told him I’ve seen it all before, lived through a period where we were dominant and made 1 grand final, so I’ve built up a fair pain tolerance.
I have Lost complete faith in the club and unless there is real change and I mean change where we all go sh*t I didn’t see that happening, or I didn’t think we had the balls to do it, I will continue to have no faith. I’ll support and barrack and attend without faith.
Yes, but its clearly the only option people have because clearly the board isn't listening and the AFL doesn't care.Not renewing makes you part of the problem and not part of the solution, it's that simple. There is not one example of an AFL club becoming successful on the back of a stack of supporters jumping off and 'sending a message' to the people who run the club. The reality of withdrawing your support is that the club will lose money, start cutting its spending and on field performance will go backwards not forwards. It's counter productive crap.
Well it’s not a membership but my old man who came with on Saturday night has attended three finals matches with me since the 04 preliminary:
2017 EF
SANFL GF vs Glenelg
2021 Preliminary
He’s very firmly asked me not to bother getting him tickets anymore.
Hackham West High School
Except the last time we did it.Not renewing makes you part of the problem and not part of the solution, it's that simple. There is not one example of an AFL club becoming successful on the back of a stack of supporters jumping off and 'sending a message' to the people who run the club. The reality of withdrawing your support is that the club will lose money, start cutting its spending and on field performance will go backwards not forwards. It's counter productive crap.
Again sweeping motherhood statements that amount to ‘she’ll be right’ ‘harden up mate’ are equally pointlessMaybe you should re read what I was said. I was replying to someone who said people might not renew because of job loses in the past year or so and I'm saying BS. Not even sure why that was bought up...
Sounds like you were educated at Hackham West High School.. I know its hard to concentrate when your holding your breath (because we lost), so next time I'll write it out in crayon font so you can understand.
People not signing because we lost is piss weak. Cant believe some of you guys are defending it...
Not renewing makes you part of the problem and not part of the solution, it's that simple. There is not one example of an AFL club becoming successful on the back of a stack of supporters jumping off and 'sending a message' to the people who run the club. The reality of withdrawing your support is that the club will lose money, start cutting its spending and on field performance will go backwards not forwards. It's counter productive crap.
It's not sooking because we lost. It's sooking because we're not doing anything to get better.Crap... People are sooking because we lost..
Except the last time we did it.
Make sure you email the club telling them why you aren’t renewingI have been saying i will do it for the last 3 years but this time I am not renewing, neither is my wife and dog.
There is nothing in my account to change it so I emailed the membership email and told them exactly why.Make sure you email the club telling them why you aren’t renewing
It's not sooking because we lost. It's sooking because we're not doing anything to get better.
If not sacked, about halfway through next year Ken Hinkley will become the longest serving coach at one club without making a Grand Final ever. Ever. In the 125 year history of the VFL/AFL.
Yep.Koch is an arrogant prick, totally disconnected from any non-happy clapper Facebook fans (The sets of these and Port supporters that watch Sunrise would be two almost perfectly overlapping circles). I don't expect anything better from him. He's a 'financial guru' who continues to break one of the cardinal rules of not chasing your losses.
The one's that I feel most disappointed in are Richo and CD. These guys if not directly reading BigFooty are regularly kept abreast of the mood of the diehard fans here. Yes, we're a small group, relative to the Membership as a whole, but are very representative of the hard core fan. We're the one's that were there 2008 - 2012, in the windswept bowl of Footy Park, as 10-15k of us watched us get flogged game after game. We're the supporters any club needs as a backbone for the inevitable times near the bottom of the ladder, that the AFL draft / salary cap dictates will happen again. When it's rosy you can ignore our gripes to a degree (although they've moved the last 3 years more and more into the general base), but when the club is down on-field and the bandwagoners are off, we're the one's who are (or should be) still turning up, keeping the club afloat. Drive enough of us away and when you desperately need our fanaticism it won't be there.
Richo and CD are the one's who need to push Koch to the side and get out to the fans, that this wasn't acceptable. Not just the players, but by Hinkley. Sure they won't sack him, but give the fans hope he's at least given an ultimatum that if it's not clear by mid-season we've fixed the repeated glaring issues (poor starts, sh*t goal kicking, easy runs against us, home ground not giving us any real advantage), then we'll be looking elsewhere. If Ken wants to crack the shits at that and walk, then he's made their job easier. Stop shitting on our plates and telling us it's chocolate.