List Mgmt. 2021 List Management: Academy, Contracts, Trading & Draft

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Some more trade and draft resources. Courtesy of Lore.

Key Off-Season Dates
This is a comprehensive list including dates for draft combines, list lodgements, delisted free agency windows and return to train dates. I had to collate these from three different club websites because the AFL is lazy af and doesn't have it on their website, so thought it might be helpful to share:

AFL TRADE, DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY DATES 2021

AFL TRADE, DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY DATES 2021

Grand Final
Saturday September 25

Draft Combine – Vic Country
Friday October 1

Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
Wednesday October 3 - Friday October 15

Trade Period (picks and players)
Monday October 4 (9am) – Wednesday October 13 (7.30pm)

Draft Combines (States and Regions)
VM: Saturday October 9 (tbc)
Qld: Sunday October 10
Tas: Monday October 11
SA: Saturday October 16
WA: Sunday October 17
NSW & ACT: tbc
NT: will join SA or Qld

Trade Period (picks only)
Monday October 18 – Monday November 15

List Lodgement 1
Friday October 29

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
Wednesday November 3 – Tuesday November 9

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
Wednesday November 10

Delisted Free Agency Window 3
Thursday November 11 – Monday November 15

AFL Pre-Season Commences (First to fourth year players)
Monday November 22

National Draft
Round 1: Wednesday November 24 (7pm)
Round 2–end: Thursday November 25 (7pm)

Preseason and Rookie Drafts
Friday November 26 (3.20pm)

Final List Lodgement
Monday November 29

Pre-Season Commences (All other players)
Monday December 6

Pre-Season Supplemental Selection Period (SSP)
December - March (tbc)

Pre-Season Christmas Break
Sunday December 19 - Sunday January 9

Draft Order & Future Pick Tracker



FAQs & Resources Thread

It has an index at the top with threadmarks so it's easy to find what you're looking for – or easier than scrolling through 250 pages of AFL Rules, Regulations and CBA pdfs anyway.

These sorts of questions are all answered along with a bunch of other resources made by posters from across BigFooty (feel free to add to it!):
www.bigfooty.com

Resource - FAQs: Rules, Regulations and Resources for Player Movements in the AFL

List sizes Club age and height profiles Salary cap information Trading rules including salary dumps Father/son & academy draft bids Free agency compensation formula & more
www.bigfooty.com www.bigfooty.com

GWS List Summary

Senior List

33: 36 less delisted Shipley & Hutchesson, delisted Wehr (to be reselected in rookie draft), traded Finlayson, plus DFA signing of Brander. 3 to 5 spots available at ND.

1 Phil Davis - 2022
2 Jacob Hopper - 2023
3 Stephen Coniglio - 2026
4 Toby Greene - 2026
5 Tanner Bruhn - 2022
6 Lachie Whitfield - 2027
7 Lachlan Ash - 2023
8 Callan Ward - 2022
9 Ryan Angwin - 2022
10 Jacob Wehr - 2022 [delisted with an agreement to select in the rookie draft]
11 Brayden Preuss - 2023
12 Tom Green - 2023
13 Isaac Cumming - 2022
14 Tim Taranto - 2022
15 Sam Taylor - 2025
16 Brent Daniels - 2025
18 Conor Stone - 2024
19 Nick Haynes - 2024
22 Josh Kelly - 2029
23 Jesse Hogan - 2022
24 Matthew De Boer - 2022
25 Lachlan Keeffe - 2022
26 Jake Riccardi - 2023
27 Harry Himmelberg - 2023
29 Cam Fleeton - 2022
30 Matt Flynn - 2023
32 Kieran Briggs - 2022
33 Xavier O'Halloran - 2022
36 Harry Perryman - 2022
37 Ian Hill - 2022
39 Connor Idun - 2022
40 Adam Kennedy - 2022
44 Jack Buckley - 2022

+ Jarrod Brander - 2022 (selected in first DFA window)

Rookie List - A

4: 7 less delisted Reid & Buntine, retired Shane Mumford. 0 to 2 spots available for rookie draft.

28 Zach Sproule - 2022
38 Daniel Lloyd - 2022
42 Jake Stein - 2022
45 James Peatling - 2022

Rookie List - B

2: full

35 Will Shaw - 2022
46 Callum M Brown - 2022 (Irish international rookie, extended 1 year under COVID rules)
 
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Andre the Giant said:
Bobby has a young partner from WA who has a bub on the way, his best mate just left the club.

At his best he’s a good player but he does still fade in and out of games.

I do think his tackle chase development has been greatly improved.

If he left we would really need to have a good look at Rachele as a like for like replacement.
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I can get the logic, but if Bobby can keep up his development in a couple of years he'd be a reason people would come and see the Giants. :(
 
dlanod said:
I can get the logic, but if Bobby can keep up his development in a couple of years he'd be a reason people would come and see the Giants. :(
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Yep! Bobby could be coming in to his prime and Lobb is 28… I know who I would rather.


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Yep, both McCarthy and Lobb going to Freo on more coin sold as ''homesick'' for WA.

Now, Lobb hasn't been particularly successful for Freo - he's neither a full-forward nor a ruck, just somewhat capable but not great at both - and appears to have been told a few home truths in his exit meeting, so Young's decided to shop him around and found little interest. He's 28, not wholly successful, & Young is looking to extend his payday for another couple of years. So, yeah, it seems a push from the manager rather than Freo - so Freo are going to take the view that GWS is pushing this. A bit of deceptive salesmanship from Young.

At 28 and less successful in any season than Finlayson, and more injury-prone, he should cost less than ToJ, and certainly not cost a young kid such as Bobby.
 
Giant Strides said:
Yep, both McCarthy and Lobb going to Freo on more coin sold as ''homesick'' for WA.

Now, Lobb hasn't been particularly successful for Freo - he's neither a full-forward nor a ruck, just somewhat capable but not great at both - and appears to have been told a few home truths in his exit meeting, so Young's decided to shop him around and found little interest. He's 28, not wholly successful, & Young is looking to extend his payday for another couple of years. So, yeah, it seems a push from the manager rather than Freo - so Freo are going to take the view that GWS is pushing this. A bit of deceptive salesmanship from Young.

At 28 and less successful in any season than Finlayson, and more injury-prone, he should cost less than ToJ, and certainly not cost a young kid such as Bobby.
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will be 29 too before he kicks a ball in anger for next season.
Comes in cheap as chips or really not interested.
 
Giant Strides said:
Yep, both McCarthy and Lobb going to Freo on more coin sold as ''homesick'' for WA.

Now, Lobb hasn't been particularly successful for Freo - he's neither a full-forward nor a ruck, just somewhat capable but not great at both - and appears to have been told a few home truths in his exit meeting, so Young's decided to shop him around and found little interest. He's 28, not wholly successful, & Young is looking to extend his payday for another couple of years. So, yeah, it seems a push from the manager rather than Freo - so Freo are going to take the view that GWS is pushing this. A bit of deceptive salesmanship from Young.

At 28 and less successful in any season than Finlayson, and more injury-prone, he should cost less than ToJ, and certainly not cost a young kid such as Bobby.
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100% agree. Late third rounder and on $400k for 3 years (takes him to 32) is the max I would offer him. For starters I don’t see him in our best 22. If Preuss is fit plus 1 of Flynn and Briggs there is no room for Lobb.


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Giant Strides said:
Yep, both McCarthy and Lobb going to Freo on more coin sold as ''homesick'' for WA.
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Amazing isn't it how these players bleat to get back home for support networks etc and as soon as things start going bad career wise they are suddenly happy to go anywhere!
 

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The best thing to come out of this Lobb situation won't even be that we get Lobb, as I think we might be forced to pay overs if we really want him

It's the validation that we're doing something right as a club. This isn't the first time we've heard about GWS being a family club and the tight knit community we have within the club. And who better to validate that for us than from past insiders, and better yet an insider who has left and would be willing to come back for less than what they're on currently.
 
Gigantic said:
The best thing to come out of this Lobb situation won't even be that we get Lobb, as I think we might be forced to pay overs if we really want him

It's the validation that we're doing something right as a club. This isn't the first time we've heard about GWS being a family club and the tight knit community we have within the club. And who better to validate that for us than from past insiders, and better yet an insider who has left and would be willing to come back for less than what they're on currently.
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Indeed .... TFG said in an interview earlier this year that many ex players regret leaving the club
 
General Giant said:
Thought bubbles eh. ******* trade week 🤦‍♂️

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Would defintely do that we're taking on no risk, moving back to 5 allows us to take a player that we might've taken at 2 anyway (Gibcus or Andrews) while also adding a strong forward option in his prime ready to contribute at a high level. But of course it's hard to see Hawthorn ever agreeing to that deal lol.
 
General Giant said:
Thought bubbles eh. ******* trade week 🤦‍♂️

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Would not be the worst trade for us. Given:
- Callaghans comments earlier in this thread about a preference for Bulldogs point to him being a potential flight risk
- we will be without Tobes for first 5 rounds. Gunston could provide scoring cover at no cost to us.
- Gibcus could be our draft target anyway. If we were guaranteed to get him with Pick 5, that could work.
 
Hendo_21 said:
Would defintely do that we're taking on no risk, moving back to 5 allows us to take a player that we might've taken at 2 anyway (Gibcus or Andrews) while also adding a strong forward option in his prime ready to contribute at a high level. But of course it's hard to see Hawthorn ever agreeing to that deal lol.
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Hawks would definitely not agree.
 
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