Corona virus and other pestilences. Poxes ‘n stuff. Part 5.

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I've never expressed any personal opinions on the subject.

I've only ever expressed what's going on in the industry and how to save it
That is a personal opinion. Your views are opinions not facts, you self-important blowhard.
 
“Mild”


We’re seeing right now the highest death rates we’ve ever seen in the history of this business,” said Scott Davison, the CEO of OneAmerica, a $100 billion life insurance and retirement company headquartered in Indianapolis.

“The data is consistent across every player in the business.”

Davison said death rates among working age people – those 18 to 64-years-old – are up 40 percent in the third and fourth quarter of 2021 over pre-pandemic levels.

“Just to give you an idea of how bad that is, a three sigma or 200-year catastrophe would be a 10 percent increase over pre-pandemic levels,” Davison said. “So, 40 percent is just unheard of.”

He said the data shows COVID deaths are greatly understated among working age Americans.

Davison says OneAmerica expects to pay out more than $100 million in short- and long-term disability claims due to the pandemic.

“Whether it’s long COVID or whether it’s because people haven’t been able to get the health care they need because the hospitals are overrun, we’re seeing those claims start to tick up as well,” he said.

Because of this, insurance companies are beginning to add prem

ium increases on employers in counties with low vaccination rates to cover the benefit payouts
 
Yes you have. You believe masks are a waste of time as multiple covid reinfections don’t matter, masks are an annoyance to staff and confuse your residents, you say masking is what has caused your staff to resign and created workforces shortages.
So of couse you’re celebrating.
Soon enough you will get what you want.

What I want is proper care and respect for the people who need it the most. We are on the verge of a humanitarian disaster. Covid isn't a threat to our at risk population. Neglect and starvation is.

I want doctors who actually understand dementia, not some quacks who put behaviours down to pain and prescribe useless panadol.

I want the DSA to not be completely useless and to actually work with dementia patients instead of being hands off academics who are completely clueless.

I want people who are pretending to help old people by wearing masks to actually help them. Volunteer with these lonely people instead of treating them like they are diseased and isolating them like they are prisoners.
 
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Unless a new variant of covid takes hold in the European winter, the WHO is predicting that the end of the global covid pandemic is near:

 
Looks like the pandemic is over...

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The UN also seems to think we are near the end but they do strike a note of caution about new strains.

"We expect there to be future waves of infections, potentially at different time points throughout the world caused by different subvariants of Omicron or even different variants of concern," said WHO's senior epidemiologist Maria Van Kerkhove.

 
What I want is proper care and respect for the people who need it the most. We are on the verge of a humanitarian disaster. Covid isn't a threat to our at risk population. Neglect and starvation is.

I want doctors who actually understand dementia, not some quacks who put behaviours down to pain and prescribe useless panadol.

I want the DSA to not be completely useless and to actually work with dementia patients instead of being hands off academics who are completely clueless.

I want people who are pretending to help old people by wearing masks to actually help them. Volunteer with these lonely people instead of treating them like they are diseased and isolating them like they are prisoners.
I think you should take this to the domestic politics thread then if it is not about covid19
 
I think you should take this to the domestic politics thread then if it is not about covid19

It is about covid. Unnecessary PPE, horrific conditions. Treating residents like high max prisoners. Unreliable recording of covid deaths. We are only starting to undo the damage now.
 
'COVID isn't a risk to old people' is a great new wild take for this thread. Not even Papa G is on board with that.

Most elderly who live in RACFs have built immunity, so soon it will no longer be a major risk. Hence why covid+ patients no longer have to isolate inside RACFs
 
Hidey ho the first set of weekly infection numbers have started to roll in.

For the week ending 16 September...

NSW down by 4,521 cases or 20.78%
Vic down by 2,352 cases or 16.73%
WA down by 1,164 cases or 16.01%
ACT down by 103 cases or 14.37%
NT down by 155 cases or 32.56%
Meanwhile in SA
SA down by 173 cases or 4.5%

Qld, and Tassie yet to report.

Hospital numbers are also falling.
 
It is about covid. Unnecessary PPE, horrific conditions. Treating residents like high max prisoners. Unreliable recording of covid deaths. We are only starting to undo the damage now.
Talk about defeating your own argument.
So you indeed will, as I factfully stated, be celebrating the end of mask (PPE) mandates
 
Talk about defeating your own argument.
So you indeed will, as I factfully stated, be celebrating the end of mask (PPE) mandates

There is nothing to celebrate. While dropping mandates is a step in the right direction there is so much to fix. Eliminating unnecessary bureaucracy needs to happen.
 

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Yeah, anyway,

Time to hear from someone who actually knows wtf they are talking about...

Australian immunologist and Nobel laureate Professor Peter Doherty. Who is passionate about promoting an evidence-based view of reality and encourages thoughtful citizens to bypass the facile propagandists.

"Long COVID afflicts people of any age, and it can be a cause of persistent malaise, inability to work. While many recover, some don't. There are also hints that the blood clotting effect may be decreasing life expectancy for some, long after the acute phase of the disease."


"Though some of this can be seen with severe flu, perhaps as part of a PICS effect (post-intensive care unit syndrome) in those who require hospitalization, flu viruses do not generally cause systemic (blood borne) infections in us. COVID-19 is a much more complex disease."

"Unlike flu, SARS-CoV-2 gets into the blood & infects cells throughout the body. it's also a clotting disease with strokes & heart problems. Imagining COVID is 'like the flu' is cutting thousands of lives short. It's time to wake up"

 
Yeah, anyway,

Time to hear from someone who actually knows wtf they are talking about...

Australian immunologist and Nobel laureate Professor Peter Doherty. Who is passionate about promoting an evidence-based view of reality and encourages thoughtful citizens to bypass the facile propagandists.

"Long COVID afflicts people of any age, and it can be a cause of persistent malaise, inability to work. While many recover, some don't. There are also hints that the blood clotting effect may be decreasing life expectancy for some, long after the acute phase of the disease."


"Though some of this can be seen with severe flu, perhaps as part of a PICS effect (post-intensive care unit syndrome) in those who require hospitalization, flu viruses do not generally cause systemic (blood borne) infections in us. COVID-19 is a much more complex disease."

"Unlike flu, SARS-CoV-2 gets into the blood & infects cells throughout the body. it's also a clotting disease with strokes & heart problems. Imagining COVID is 'like the flu' is cutting thousands of lives short. It's time to wake up"


BUt what would Doherty know?
It’s milder than a cold, every infection makes you even stronger ( especially the elderly in Residential Care) and Long Covid is just a fake condition created by emotional women and covid fetishists according to our resident self proclaimed experts on here.

I went to a lecture of his earlier this year, very entertaining and he did note with a little concern the lack of mask wearing.
 
BUt what would Doherty know?
It’s milder than a cold, every infection makes you even stronger ( especially the elderly in Residential Care) and Long Covid is just a fake condition created by emotional women and covid fetishists according to our resident self proclaimed experts on here.

I went to a lecture of his earlier this year, very entertaining and he did note with a little concern the lack of mask wearing.

Initial infection can be milder than a cold, or can be very severe. However, repeated infection does appear to be promoting immunity, which is why our elderly in particular are no longer showing symptoms. Its why PPE is no longer needed.

Healthcare and dementia 'experts' would not survive on the floor on a shift with us. There is a huge disconnect with academics and reality.
 
Yeah, anyway,

Time to hear from someone who actually knows wtf they are talking about...

Australian immunologist and Nobel laureate Professor Peter Doherty. Who is passionate about promoting an evidence-based view of reality and encourages thoughtful citizens to bypass the facile propagandists.

"Long COVID afflicts people of any age, and it can be a cause of persistent malaise, inability to work. While many recover, some don't. There are also hints that the blood clotting effect may be decreasing life expectancy for some, long after the acute phase of the disease."


"Though some of this can be seen with severe flu, perhaps as part of a PICS effect (post-intensive care unit syndrome) in those who require hospitalization, flu viruses do not generally cause systemic (blood borne) infections in us. COVID-19 is a much more complex disease."

"Unlike flu, SARS-CoV-2 gets into the blood & infects cells throughout the body. it's also a clotting disease with strokes & heart problems. Imagining COVID is 'like the flu' is cutting thousands of lives short. It's time to wake up"



This guy sounds like a certified pants pisser. It's just a little cold. As a qualified bookkeeper and ignoramus I'm an expert on such matters.
 
Initial infection can be milder than a cold, or can be very severe. However, repeated infection does appear to be promoting immunity, which is why our elderly in particular are no longer showing symptoms. Its why PPE is no longer needed.

Healthcare and dementia 'experts' would not survive on the floor on a shift with us. There is a huge disconnect with academics and reality.
Puddy still doesn’t get it
 
Puddy still doesn’t get it

Are you going to listen to someone who sits for a living who is using manipulated data and is attempting to remain relevant?

Or are you going to listen to the actual experts? The people who do. The people actually keeping others alive. The people at the coalface.
 
Are you going to listen to someone who sits for a living who is using manipulated data and is attempting to remain relevant?

Or are you going to listen to the actual experts? The people who do. The people actually keeping others alive. The people at the coalface.
I spent my whole career at the coalface and I also am married to a scientist.
What you see externally might not reveal what is happening internally to the organs, or do you think that is some lie too?
 
Are you going to listen to someone who sits for a living who is using manipulated data and is attempting to remain relevant?

Or are you going to listen to the actual experts? The people who do. The people actually keeping others alive. The people at the coalface.

The experts are people who study this s**t for a living, not people with a tiny biased view of their own little patch and no scientific experience whatsoever, mainlining confirmation bias like you're Wayne Carey in the toilets at a casino.
 
It seems my 12yo has long covid, he hasn’t been right since he caught it at Easter, it’s really quite heartbreaking to see a kid who has always been so healthy so run down. He’s had more time off school in the last 2 terms than he has in the previous 7 years!

He has almost constant fatigue and pain, he describes it as feeling like giant needles are pushing through his body, (joint and muscle pain?) and every few weeks will get hit with a fever, nausea and blinding headache that leaves him bedridden for a day or 2.
We have run a whole heap of tests and they have all come back clear which is good, but all the doctors can offer is that it’s probably long covid and we just have to wait it out.
 
It seems my 12yo has long covid, he hasn’t been right since he caught it at Easter, it’s really quite heartbreaking to see a kid who has always been so healthy so run down. He’s had more time off school in the last 2 terms than he has in the previous 7 years!

He has almost constant fatigue and pain, he describes it as feeling like giant needles are pushing through his body, (joint and muscle pain?) and every few weeks will get hit with a fever, nausea and blinding headache that leaves him bedridden for a day or 2.
We have run a whole heap of tests and they have all come back clear which is good, but all the doctors can offer is that it’s probably long covid and we just have to wait it out.
Oh man, I am so sorry for your child and for you. What terrible symptoms. It must be so worrying for your family and hard on the young fella.
Hopefully over time things improve for him and they are doing an incredible amount of research in this area now.

We had some long covid in our family too but not as bad as this plus my 19 month old grand daughter who was very robust and had only the occassional sniffle prior to contracting covid has been sick almost constantly since ‘recovering’ from covid a couple of months ago. We can only think her immunity has been suppressed from the covid infection.
 
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