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  1. Bardo State

    Player Watch 2024 AFL Draft Thread

    I really liked Gross in some of the carnival games. People who know better have doubts but I'd still be excited if he's a hawk
  2. Bardo State

    Most talented hawk of all time (not best or most decorated pure talent)

    I didn't see footy before the 00s. To me, Cyril is skill. It's never fair to compare anyone to him. If they've got the marking and the freakish goals, they probably don't have the killer defensive instincts and the tackling technique. If they've got the agility, speed and advantage kicking...
  3. Bardo State

    Player Watch 2024 AFL Draft Thread

    He tested top 10 at the combine for agility. Also for running vertical. Can change direction and pick the ball off the deck in play.
  4. Bardo State

    It’s a big season for……

    I think all of these nominations make sense. I pretty much agree with the reasoning for all of them. I'll go a bit out there and say Newk. In the first half of the year I was questioning whether he was just a good midfielder or whether he could be the best inside mid in a premiership team. In...
  5. Bardo State

    Player Watch 2024 AFL Draft Thread

    2021. Only played the 8 games at NAB league level in his draft year. No champs selection. With JHF, Daicos, Ward, Croc, Andrew etc
  6. Bardo State

    Player Watch 2024 AFL Draft Thread

    I can't get away from Tom Gross. I think he would be a steal in the 20s. Faull and Sims I like as second round tall forwards where we need talent. Day Wicks, Jaques and Ivisic late.
  7. Bardo State

    Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

    Ooft, dogs shafted here
  8. Bardo State

    Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

    Slide of F3 to F4 surely no more than ~10 picks in the 50s/60s That plus 14 Brilliant deal
  9. Bardo State

    Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

    A setback that it limits futures trading on draft night without a full hand in all rounds
  10. Bardo State

    Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

    Big year for Ramma
  11. Bardo State

    Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

    Barrass is a flipping gun, no need to hold back now
  12. Bardo State

    Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

    2026 and 2027
  13. Bardo State

    Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

    I'm sure we can bring Callaghan into line
  14. Bardo State

    Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

    Nah, would need a future second to do it. 33 and the remaining future first on the other hand...
  15. Bardo State

    Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

    If Smith is walked to the national draft, do you trade back in at GWS's 15/16 to take him on his Geelong agreed deal?
  16. Bardo State

    Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

    I have a good feeling about Sims
  17. Bardo State

    Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

    Yep. AFL site says they can now be lodged. If previous years are a guide, that doesn't mean they all get put through now. They will still be drawn out between now and 7. Even if they are done. This is prime content time.
  18. Bardo State

    Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

    Wouldn't surprise me to see us trade out our remaining F1 at 18-25 to jump on someone we like on draft night. Nab a Whitlock, Faull, Shanahan, Lindsay, Gross, Moraes. Heaps to like in that range.
  19. Bardo State

    Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

    Tom Barrass is seriously good and when he's saving our arse next year, I reckon it will be hard to find anyone owning up to having said something like 'walk away and keep the 2x 2025 first round picks'.
  20. Bardo State

    Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

    If the haggling is over the F3, I hope we can make the first ever connect four trade in AFL history to split the difference. In: Barrass, F3 (WCE), F4 (WCE) Out: F1 (Haw), F2 (Haw), F3 (Haw), F4 (Haw)
  21. Bardo State

    Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

    Tigers are set to have a putrid team, but 8 picks within 24 in a very hyped draft. Genuinely interested to see if going that all in can be a valid way to build a side. Probably won't know for 7-10 years.
  22. Bardo State

    Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

    It's always extra delicious when this stuff happens to SA/WA clubs. Footy mad cities where local media runs on telling locals that the sun shines out of their team's rears. Expectations are always through the roof from the outset. A perfect setup for crash and burn melts.
  23. Bardo State

    Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

    Yep, it can be a while to dig out of failed top ups. Like us, Tiges, Eagles. You have to be able to pick the eyes out of late selections and/or have a blessed academy run. Geelong 2022 might be a significant anomaly.
  24. Bardo State

    Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

    Definitely has the potential to be a list killer (combined with last year giving F1 for Schulz) During Naicos golden years, too.
  25. Bardo State

    Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

    Personally, I think it's nuts for Port to give up contracted Houston after making top 4 and a prelim. For what? Pick 13 and some fringe flankers? I don't see him as the type to drop tools for the year if a trade fell through.
  26. Bardo State

    Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

    Geez. Would have to be about smoothing his money, if true.
  27. Bardo State

    Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

    Collingwood went into the period without their first or second round picks after finishing bottom 10. They come out with Houston and Perryman. Pretty good if you think there's still juice to squeeze out of that list. Sidebottom, Howe, Pendles, Crisp, WHE, Mihocheck, Mitchell. A third of the...
  28. Bardo State

    Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

    Trading for Brodie Kemp would be the most St Kilda move
  29. Bardo State

    Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

    Take the counterfactual of Barrass for F1 and F2 straight up. They get Baker and the F2 in both scenarios. Original trade they are left with This year: pick 3 Next year: New trade they have This year: pick 12, Owies (not worth much given circumstances) Next year: F1 (Carlton or Hawthorn), F3...
  30. Bardo State

    Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

    Carlton traded out of the first 2 rounds next year to move up 9 spots in an even draft. If their pick 3 (4 after Ashcroft) isn't a star, or if they aren't a top 6 team next year, it's a terrible series of trades for them. This and the Owies trades are because they have not managed their list...
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