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    Discussion The real story

    For a few reasons, 2020 is really just a development year for the Saints. The wins are great but the real story is not our position on the ladder but how this team is coming together. Collectively, I think we have to look at 2022 and 2023 as our next legitimate flag window. There are a few other...
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    Analysis The lessons from Fremantle

    100 page Strategic report, "we need to be a superpower" Sluggish rebuild 2016 -2019 (compared to Saints 2012 - 2019) "Skill deficiencies" "significant change required" It is refreshing to see a club take an honest look at where they are at and make some really meaningful decisions to give...
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    Analysis Where are we at?

    Watching the Zebras on Sunday - seeing King have a scare and looking at the "seconds", I wondered where we are in the premiership window. This has been a difficult year with injuries and what nots to key players. So, if we wiped the slate clean and imagine us starting in 2020 with no injuries...
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    Throwing not being picked up by umpires

    In the first quarter of the game last night there were 5 or 6 instances where the ball was clearly thrown or simply handed to a teammate. To be fair, there was not much of it in the next 3 quarters but it seems to be a developing trend and the line between handball and throw is becoming...
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    Phantom Coaches Draft

    If there were such a thing as a coaches draft, how would the top 10 look today? I did two lists, one for a club that is challenging, another for a club that is rebuilding. What do you think? Challenger (let's call them GWS) 1. Clarkson 2. Longmire 3. Chris Scott 4. Beveridge 5. Lyon 6. Roos 7...
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    Shout out to a couple of veterans

    Lots of posts about the "young guns" popping up in these forums. Thought I would balance the ledger a bit. Bob Murphy Have seen this guy speak a couple of times. Quirky, great sense of humor and you get the impression of one of the really good guys of the AFL. Thought his career was petering...
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    AFL Finances

    Let me preface this by saying I have no idea how the "money trail" works between the AFL and the clubs. But The Age is carrying a story today about the Hawks threatening to pull out of the equalisation arrangements. The Hawks President talked about a figure of $650k that the Hawks were due to...
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    The Buckley Precedent

    Nathan Buckley's path to head coach at Pies is well known. A promise is made to a favorite son and people and things are manipulated to make it happen. At the time I thought it was not good thinking - particularly after Pies went back to back Grand Final appearances. But I have to admit...
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    Poor handball, poor kicking for goal.

    Lots of commentators on the weekend talking about the decline in standards of handball and goal kicking. But none of them seem to be able to explain it. To me it seems pretty simple. It is all about the pace of the game. Players have less time than ever to get a handball away and by the time a...
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    Gifting a Premiership

    I read somewhere the other day that GWS effectively picked up 25 first round draft picks in 2011, 2012 and 2013 (if we assume their under 17s would have been first rounders). All expectations are that GWS will be strong premiership contenders from 2016 onwards. If they win one...what is the...
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    The Roos and the Blues

    Both teams have had a tough start to the season and are 0-3. Not a great start but the real problem is that they are both playing pretty well. It seems (particularly for Carlton) that this is yet another year where they are amongst the best teams outside the Top 4. Not sure either list has the...
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    AFL Moratorium

    Should the AFL announce a moratorium on drug use and match fixing? Brisbane Lions being accused, everyone knows Demons are not the only team that may have tanked, most of the footy world knows anabolic steroid use was rife at a couple of clubs in the 80s, individual match results being called...
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    Bombers fans - Keep your heads up

    Tough I know but now is the time to stick tight. As supporters we have all been through tough times with our clubs so all supporters know how you must be feeling. You are going to get a few kickings over the next few weeks so this is a thread just to say hang tough and remember what a great club...
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    Social Drugs

    The recent news of the 4 Pies players self reporting is just another in a chain of incidents that are not going to go away. Whether the older generations want to admit it or not, social drugs are almost as ingrained in the under 30s world as alcohol. The problem is not going to go away. In...
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    The Premiership Window

    Not that I have looked too far back in history but is the "premiership window" more crowded this year than any other? By my reckoning the following clubs would all have SERIOUS expectations of a Top 4 finish, Hawthorn Collingwood Carlton Swans WCE Adelaide North Richmond? Geelong Fremantle...
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    Moved Thread Recreational Drugs

    Apparently Garry Pert has addressed the club CEOs meeting on the matter of recreational drug use amongst players and the AFL's need to do something about it. I think anyone who has spent time out and about in Melbourne knows that recreational drugs are widely used. We have had players suspended...
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    What has happened to Pies midfield?

    I was in a bit of shock last night. I thought on the back of a superior midfield, Pies were a good chance against Hawthorn. What has happened to Sidebottom, Pendlebury, THOMAS and to a lesser extent Swan? In 10/11 this was the deepest batting, most potent and fierce tackling midfield in the...
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    Another genuine question for Pies fans.

    18 months on, where do you sit on the Malthouse/Buckley transition? Good thing or bad thing? Or is it 4 weeks early to comment?
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    Young Gun Draft

    A few years back we started to see the next group of midfielders coming through to take over from Hird, Buckley, Havey, Voss, Cousins etc. Now those players are closer to the end than the start of their careers - players like Bartels, Mitchell, Hayes, boomer Harvey, Judd, Hodge etc. So if...
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    Skills - Best of the best

    Today's players are probably the most skillful ever. But line by line who is the best of the best? Right foot kick for Goal - Tony Lockett Left foot kick for Goal - Matthew Lloyd Field kick - Ben Cousins Handpass - Greg Williams Mark - Stewart Loewe Run and Bounce - Peter Matera Tackle - Tie...

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