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  1. WCE_phil

    Mega Thread WCE: When is the first win? How do we fix this mess? Can we see any improvement at all?

    The AFL wants the Dockers and Eagles to continue to fail for a very specific reason. They want control over all club licences and control over the state and junior leagues as well. I think you'd be surprised just how much the AFL would be willing to compromise to help the WA clubs if the WAFC...
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

    Macrae looks good until he plays against good mids. Go back and watch him get monstered at the clearance vs the dogs.
  3. WCE_phil

    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

    Oh and it's 400k + match payments a year for 3 years. After paying way too much for Haynes Carlton could only afford to offer Owies 250k for 1 year and Matt Kennedy a little bit more. Carlton's cap space is ****ed. They will seriously struggle to hold onto TDK.
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

    Just remember I was told the players to chase and how hard to and If I could get commitment then Clarke produced a contract offer. Over the course of the season I got 8 commitments. That turned out being just 1 player landed. Graham and Baker I didn't have a role in. I must admit though ****...
  5. WCE_phil

    Mega Thread WCE: When is the first win? How do we fix this mess? Can we see any improvement at all?

    There is no sporting comparison to what the WCE and dockers do in the AFL, particularly with a limited budget. If you look at our 3 premiership eras all had one similarity to the next. They were a young team with a concentration of talent that developed early and with 1 player from the previous...
  6. WCE_phil

    Mega Thread WCE: When is the first win? How do we fix this mess? Can we see any improvement at all?

    Archer Reid is a FB or a Ruckman. He will highly likely be very, very good at once of those roles. At the moment at AFL level he can't really play either (can't play FB as his body stands atm and can only really play secondary ruck around the ground against secondary rucks) He's not a forward...
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    Opinion Should the team ask for a Priority Pick 2025 edition.

    Also for the future, to protect tv and streaming rights deals, once Tasmania is in the competition if a Victorian team is a constant drag, the league can afford to merge 2 teams and it would also likely be beneficial not only to the clubs but also to the league from a financial perspective...
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    Opinion Should the team ask for a Priority Pick 2025 edition.

    Couple of extra list spots with the ability to pre list NGA's. It's about the best the club can hope for.
  9. WCE_phil

    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

    Too far our way TBH. Their 2 firsts + Z Reid for Harley would probably do it.
  10. WCE_phil

    Oppo Camp Non-Eagles Discussion 2025

    The way they strap these days a dislocation also likely includes a syndesmosis so either way it's not great. But still better than a major break.
  11. WCE_phil

    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

    Not if it's band 2.
  12. WCE_phil

    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

    Jack Williams is the future second ruck / tall forward. Archer Reid is a future key back. Shanahan is a very likely lead up FF. Josh Kennedy couldn't really train in season post 2014. I'm not against pulling the offer put to Allen and offering him a 2 year deal on very good money. Tell him to...
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

    Tsatas is shit and can't kick. Junior game just doesn't translate to AFL. Also doesn't want to leave Victoria. Hobbs is starting to come along alright and again didn't want to leave Victoria. Robertson again looks to be in that in between space of too good for state league, not good enough to...
  14. WCE_phil

    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

    Ryan is potentially one we can potentially afford to lose. It would have to be for a very good pick even if it was the hawks pick + Ryan to get into the top 8 of the draft. Club likely needs to keep it's second rounders for Walley and Evans imo. We have some real top tier looking small forward...
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    List Mgmt. Draftee, NGA and Father/Son Discussion - 2025

    Clayton is the biggest talent to me. Will be interesting to see how he develops. Lets just hope he keeps growing.
  16. WCE_phil

    List Mgmt. Draftee, NGA and Father/Son Discussion - 2025

    Swadling before the end of year needs to play at league level and show decent disposal and decision making at that level. If he does he's a definite first round pick and a player i'm very interested in as he is strong over the ball and just gets an absolute heap of it. If he doesn't and just...
  17. WCE_phil

    Injury BHHIU (Formerly SJOGHCIU) - 2025 Fingers Crossed Edition

    Yeo is seeing the specialist weekly. They were hoping for progression. They may need to take the metalwork out and then the healing and rehab begins again. (just a sly edit, he is still rehabbing the knee as best as possible, the ankle is the issue)
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    List Mgmt. Draftee, NGA and Father/Son Discussion - 2025

    He's got great drive and a great couple of first steps. A bit like Zorko when he was a bit younger or Dane Swan in that they aren't quick players but they have great power and a great first few steps.
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    List Mgmt. Draftee, NGA and Father/Son Discussion - 2025

    If he was elite by foot he'd be in the discussion for pick 1 as he can play anywhere. But for me the juice just isn't worth the squeeze and whilst a very high ceiling is also very high risk.
  20. WCE_phil

    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

    His problem is in two parts. 1. His disposal by foot is poor. 2. When he steps up to the next level his footy IQ lets him down. Classic case at this stage of too good for WAFL, not good enough for AFL. Where our list is at he's probably worth a list spot but he's nowhere near what we're really...
  21. WCE_phil

    List Mgmt. Draftee, NGA and Father/Son Discussion - 2025

    Two more things and apologies not for mentioning them. 1. Salary cap trading for picks to be introduced (likely either when Tassie come in or the year after) 2. The increase in draft age is further out, likely to be done in 6 month increments 1 or two years apart. I thoroughly agree that there...
  22. WCE_phil

    List Mgmt. Draftee, NGA and Father/Son Discussion - 2025

    Looking at increasing list sizes by 2. NGA's and FS that aren't bid on in ND can be transferred straight to rookie list. CAT B down to 1, only for players who haven't been registered for 3 years. (so current cat b rookies like livingstone & champion would be standard rookies) AFL also wants to...
  23. WCE_phil

    Autopsy Round 7, 2025: Positives and Negatives vs Hawthorn

    Positive: We hate a future full back on our list. Negative: Because he's athletic and has a good footy IQ the match committee are committed to try and make him a forward when he just can't kick straight for goal. No run from behind. Terrible structures and just absolutely deplorable skills...
  24. WCE_phil

    Game Day Round 7, 2025: West Coast vs Hawthorn (aka Midfield Pressure at Any Price: The Tom Barrass Story)

    If Mini is smart he will play Waterman deep on Barrass. I struggle to see us getting enough out of our midfield against the hawks but Waterman is the perfect player to expose Barrass' weaknesses. I don't think Allen has the running power atm to espose Barrass.
  25. WCE_phil

    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

    The problem with Barnett is pretty simple really. 1. He just happened to have far and away his best year of his life in his draft year. Was expected to go on with it. 2. He lacks the competitive nature between the ears, which you couldn't tell in his draft year. Burgiel is a similar story. He...
  26. WCE_phil

    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

    Carlton have no salary cap space. Everything they have will go into keeping TDK.
  27. WCE_phil

    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

    Very tired, had just been watching footage of Onley and it was a mistype. Also as you have noted obviously Charlie Banfield can't be cat B.
  28. WCE_phil

    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

    Just on our NGA's I can see Walley being bid on between 20-40 (I think more towards the top end than the bottom) depending on his year. Evans if he has a good year through the midfield is also around that range (potentially even higher). Banfield is a touch vanilla (his younger brother Harper...
  29. WCE_phil

    List Mgmt. Oscar Allen Free Agency

    No it won't as the salary cap has gone up. It will need to be 1mill a year inclusive of game payments roughly to trigger band 1.
  30. WCE_phil

    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

    Barnett and Livingstone are highly unlikely to ever be AFL standard and Archer Reid's goal kicking is shit. He's best off moved to defence. Edwards is so unbelievably slow that he just isn't the answer and Gov has a max of 2 years left. The club needs Jack Williams to pair with Shanahan and...

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