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Preview Geelong vs WCE - Sat April 24, GMHBA Stadium @1:45pm
You got this one guys. Very early word is we are looking to leave a sore Kennedy at home, and we havent won in Geelong since Jesus was on his carpentry apprenticeship. Combined with all our outs, you'll piss this in. Its free money as far as the TAB is concerned. -
Autopsy Geelong lose to WC by 9 points at Optus
I come in peace. I find it a bit weird that a few of you are down on Rategolea (sp?). From an opposition point of view I felt he was in everything. Won a lot of contests and halved a few where I thought we were on. Wasnt horrible in the ruck either. The bad miss was the only thing I thought you... -
MRP / Trib. Hawkins escapes ban for elbow
FWIW we aint melting. We largely dont care if he plays or not and most think he shouldnt have been suspended in the first place. -
News Tim Kelly traded to West Coast - ***Opposition fans read the OP***
Yeah but we've basically had to trade ourselves out of this year's draft to do it. Happy to have him by all means if this pans out, but there will be a lot of pressure on him to perform next year now. -
News Tim Kelly traded to West Coast - ***Opposition fans read the OP***
TBH we feel like we're paying slight overs. You guys seem to feel like you're getting unders. In the end its probably about right insofar as both teams are not quite happy to be paying what they are. -
News Tim Kelly traded to West Coast - ***Opposition fans read the OP***
You are welcome to Petrol. If I have to watch him overrun one more grounded football because his legs work faster than his brain I will spew. -
Analysis Danger on Tim Kelly + his 2020 contract
That's an indictment on Freo as much as it is a reflection on us. -
Analysis Danger on Tim Kelly + his 2020 contract
I suspect you will get this + a fringe player like Petrol in the end, for TK + something like your 2020 second rounder. -
Analysis Danger on Tim Kelly + his 2020 contract
FWIW I don't think you would get Gaff this year, anyway. He very publicly nailed his flag to the WCE mast at the end of 2018. I suspect he will stay with us for as long as his dad stays in a stable condition, then if he starts to go downhill a trade will eventuate with a Vic club. -
Analysis Danger on Tim Kelly + his 2020 contract
TBH I assume the club wasn't aware of how much of an issue it was for him to be away from his family beforehand? Maybe he thought he could hack it but then circumstances outside of his control (ie: his ill kid) forced his hand? I agree that we certainly aren't doing it just for the humanitarian... -
Analysis Danger on Tim Kelly + his 2020 contract
So you'd rather get nothing than something? If that was the case why would future players ever want to be traded to Geelong if they risked getting shoved into the draft the second they have a problem outside football? -
Analysis Danger on Tim Kelly + his 2020 contract
And if Freo put a decent trade in front of Geelong for him, then take it. But if they don't, then we'll both be resigned to doing a trade that both sides feel shafted by. -
Analysis Danger on Tim Kelly + his 2020 contract
Again, agree. But what do you do if Freo says "yeah, nah, no thanks"? Not Tim or West Coast's fault there's only 2 clubs to deal with and one doesn't want to talk. -
Analysis Danger on Tim Kelly + his 2020 contract
Yes they do. But why would Geelong send him to the draft for nothing when they can get picks? -
Analysis Danger on Tim Kelly + his 2020 contract
Just so we're clear, you're advocating: * to send a player desperate to get back to WA for the sake of his family to the draft * even if he says he will accept offers from both WA clubs * and the WA club with the better picks refuses to trade for him Is that correct? Its better to f*ck the guy... -
Analysis Danger on Tim Kelly + his 2020 contract
Hawk shouldn't be punching people in the head off the play. If the roles were reversed Schofield would have copped 2. And in terms of being kindhearted in terms of trades, show me a past West Coast player who didn't get to wherever he wanted to go? We've lost a lot of talent over the years by... -
Analysis Danger on Tim Kelly + his 2020 contract
I agree with you. Kelly should be nominating both clubs. But if he nominates WC as first preference and then Freo don't want to play, what do you do? You cant force Freo to trade for him. -
Analysis Danger on Tim Kelly + his 2020 contract
If it were me in charge of trading at West Coast, I would offer you our first 2 picks this year (14 and 24 IIRC) + one of Petrol/ Cole/ Nelson. If Geelong really pushed me I could see also adding next year's second rounder OR replacing the nominated players with Brander. Anything more than that... -
Analysis Danger on Tim Kelly + his 2020 contract
West Coast aren't playing the family card. Kelly is. We'll gladly bring a WA boy home to the club, but its not on us to trade away our future to do so. If Geelong get silly with the trade then that will reflect badly on them, not us. -
Analysis Danger on Tim Kelly + his 2020 contract
I agree. That's the benefit (to us in this scenario) of having so many other clubs in Victoria to choose from. By virtue of the comp Kelly can only choose 2 clubs. If one club wont play ball then effectively he can only choose 1. Does Geelong then keep him in Victoria to the detriment of the... -
Analysis Danger on Tim Kelly + his 2020 contract
If the scenario was "pick 90 or nothing at all", and there were absolutely no other offers from other Vic clubs then we would have to, because Gaff can choose to leave for Victoria at any time. What are West Coast supposed to do in that situation? Send him to the draft for free where some other... -
Analysis Danger on Tim Kelly + his 2020 contract
That's just the nature of the comp. Same as you have to play finals at the 'G, apparently. We are well aware that if Gaff wants to exercise his contract clause then we are proper f*cked if he nominates a specific club. But we'll let him go because his dad is dying on the other side of the country. -
Analysis Danger on Tim Kelly + his 2020 contract
And we would be grateful for that, because they could certainly throw a lot lower offers at him to land him. Gaff's contract allows him to walk to Victoria in the event he wants to be with his sick dad. -
Analysis Danger on Tim Kelly + his 2020 contract
Why is that bullsh*t? In fact our club is so in favour for that idea that we specifically gave Gaff a clause in his contract that will allow him to explore his options with a Vic-based club precisely for that reason. Why would we keep a guy on our list when he wants to go home to be with his... -
Analysis Danger on Tim Kelly + his 2020 contract
We're actually in a similar position with Gaff right now, where he may want to go home to Victoria soon (his dad is really sick with cancer). If Gaff nominated Collingwood and they didn't have very good picks, then I would hope the club could persuade him to play for any Vic-based club (and... -
Analysis Danger on Tim Kelly + his 2020 contract
Assuming TK nominates to go home I think Geelong, having tried their best to get him to stay through 2019 but ultimately being unsuccessful, will do the right thing by TK. Even if that means taking a deal that is slightly less than what you expected. Basically I think you will put the welfare of... -
Analysis Danger on Tim Kelly + his 2020 contract
I know that. That's why I think TK will end up at Freo (ive said as much throughout the entire thread). BUT if Freo don't satisfy your demands my belief is TK will head west to play for us anyway, because I think you will accept our offer rather than keep him on your list for another year when... -
Analysis Danger on Tim Kelly + his 2020 contract
FWIW I don't think we will lowball you from the perspective of West Coast. I suspect we'll offer you our first 2 picks this year + one of Petrol/ Brander. Whether Geelong feels like that's a lowball offer is up to them, but my opinion is you'll take it if that's the best offer you can get for him. -
Analysis Danger on Tim Kelly + his 2020 contract
I doubt it only occurs between West Coast and Freo. If Freo walk away, what can you do? Theoretically you COULD hold TK at Geelong, but im basing an argument around Geelong not doing that for player welfare reasons. You could also send him to the draft, but I don't think your club is that... -
Analysis Danger on Tim Kelly + his 2020 contract
Sounds like we're both on the same page. My only caveat is that, if Freo don't give you the picks you want, you'll probably take what West Coast give you rather than keep Kelly for another year. GENERALLY however, West Coast and Freo don't step on each other's toes when doing trades for players...
