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  1. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    You're right, if someone is dumb enough to think that a 19 year old KPP playing only "one average game" means he should be dealt for picks 20 and 22, then there's no point in continue the discussion. All the best.
  2. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    I guess that's fair enough, if that's Geelong's biggest need, but gunning for a top 8 in exchange for a mature-aged draftee with one (admittedly excellent) season under his belt is a pretty big ask. I'm also trying to figure out how Kelly gets them any closer to that goal after next year, unless...
  3. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    He's not 23, and those AFL player ratings are terrible.
  4. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    I've found one difference. Neale: Two-time B&F, two times won the best player in WA award, 3 times in the AFL 40-man All-Australian squad Shiel: 2017 All-Australian and regularly in the top 5 for the Kevin Sheedy medal, also the most tagged GWS player the last 5 years Kelly: One AFL season, 0...
  5. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    Brander is a 19 year old KPP; Kelly is a 24 year old midfielder who has been playing in the twos for 5 years. Do you know anything about how footy works?
  6. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    Yes tell us more about a the character of a guy you don't know and the reaction of his partner, who you also don't know.
  7. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    Let's look at this a couple of ways. The Eagles 2-time best and fairest was drafted at pick 30. Their 3-time All-Australian defender was drafted at #44 in the rookie draft. Their top goal kicker this year was drafted at #26. Or another way to look at it. Here are the draft positions of the...
  8. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    Calling picks like 20 and 22 scraps suggests you have a terrible understanding of draft pick value in the AFL. This isn’t the NBA buddy.
  9. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    Okay here are some things that are true: -The vast majority of contracted players who ask to be traded to their home state are doing so for family reasons. -The vast majority of contracted players who nominate to move interstate also specify which club they’d like to be dealt to. -Kelly’s family...
  10. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    Do you think Jesse Hogan is a douche for wanting out of Melbourne for family reasons and only wanting to play for Freo?
  11. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    That is true, but it's a pretty terrible argument to say that elite players only come out of the top 10 picks when you're demanding top 10 picks for a player who was drafted in the 20s one year ago.
  12. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    And with another year of Tim Kelly, Geelong might be able to get eliminated in the first round of finals again.
  13. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    Practically every player who was traded besides Steven May nominated a preferred club; this is a total red herring. Do you think that Scully and Wingard are tossers for only wanting to play for Hawthorn? What about O'Meara?
  14. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    So you're demanding a top 10 pick (elite talent) for a guy who one year ago picked in the 20s, which by your math is no different to picks in the 40s or 50s. Makes total sense if you don't think about it.
  15. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

  16. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    Literally everybody on the Eagles board is celebrating that they didn't meet the Geelong asking price of 20, 22 and a future first.
  17. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    Strange how Hogan and Beams aren't dickheads for specifically saying that they wanted to be traded to Freo and Collingwood, respectively. I guess that rule only applies to Kelly because... I dunno, reasons.
  18. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    Congrats on adding Colyer and Conca, your midfield is looking loaded now.
  19. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    Be right back, just going to watch the last few minutes of the 2018 Grand Final again.
  20. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    Yes, why weren't they just compassionate enough to meet Geelong's incredibly exorbitant asking price!!!
  21. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    Maybe Kelly just doesn't want to play for a sex pest.
  22. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    Tears at not paying a huge price in terms of draft picks for a player who will probably be playing for the Eagles in 2 years? After re-signing Gaff, thereby making the Kelly trade less important? Yeah I'll be real broken up about it.
  23. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    That's a lot less lol-worthy than Geelong seeing the Eagles as their direct flag competition in 2019.
  24. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    Except playing for Freo, although to be fair, nobody wins at that.
  25. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    I'm sure Geelong will be glad they kept an unhappy player around to finish somewhere around 7th to 12th on the ladder, then have him leave for a worse return at the end of the year.
  26. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    Geelong's primary competition for the flag next year is the quality of their list, or lack thereof.
  27. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    Maybe inadvertantly whilst in the process of getting baked.
  28. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    Ah so now we have some additional caveats: -it’s only legitimate compassionate request if a player is out of contract, or -if the player was previously discussed during another trade period. The fact that Geelong is the only AFL club within an hour of Geelong is quite fortunate, as it means...
  29. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    Does the “compassionate grounds are BS if a player only nominates one club” rule apply to all clubs, or only WA clubs that Geelong are trying to deal with? Did the following players have legitimate compassionate grounds claims? Scott Selwood (only wanted to play at Geelong) Dylan Shiel (only...
  30. Ilkka Sinisalo

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    lol

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