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    SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

    The cynic in me says that neither the AFL or Essendon want the full truth of this whole thing to come out notwithstanding that they probably have wildly different versions of the truth Us poor mugs will be left trying to decipher agenda driven media reports
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    SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

    Sums up this whole saga IMO Supplement program run primarily by Dank with too few key personnel knowing what exactly he was doing The players being inadequately informed by Dank what they were being injected with Charges being laid by the AFL based on an incomplete interim report Penalties...
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    SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

    Just want to say how impressed I was with Thompson on FC. Was obviously still pretty raw from the last two days but answered all the questions honestly and candidly and gave a pretty good insight into some of what happened at the club and the shortcomings of the investigation and "hearing"...
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    SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

    Well well well As someone who justified jobe getting booed at subiaco all those weeks ago on the basis that he had admitted to taking a drug that WADA considered to be banned I'm left wondering just how it came to that. Why wasn't this explained well before now that AOD had been cleared by...
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    SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

    I think one of them actually mentioned they were being called the four aminos in passing
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    SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

    Can't remember it word for word but he said he would only pay attention if it was gunston or little that said they were approaching sheedy. Said sheedy might be useful off field then said something dismissive about it being the essendonians
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    SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

    Did I hear hutchy say that the guys wearing sombreros should have been thrown out? Ffs heaven forbid some supporters have a bit of light hearted humor after what would be a horrible season in so many ways
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    SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

    Wow doubly respectful. I really do feel special special now:) As RFC and tas have said, I'm happy to move on from here as soon as the mods let me know I've outstayed my welcome
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    SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

    Don't disagree with this but I think it would be fair to say had Essendon been able to provide a detailed listing of what had been provided to each player their current problems wouldn't be as great as they are. I say this based on one of the reported charges being the clubs inability to show...
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    SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

    This is far from my expertise so this is just my opinion using something I do know a bit more about. OH&S requires companies to have policies and procedures in place to ensure a safe work environment - the penalties for not having those in place aren't significant but if someone has an accident...
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    SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

    Sadly I agree - it's not the AFL's way and despite Essendon's statements that they will be in a good position when the truth comes out I'm not sure they would want all their dirty Laundry aired in public unless it's necessary. There may also be some perfectly valid pricvacy concerns as well...
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    SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

    My only hope is that if a deal is done, the facts are released in full so that we can all assess for ourselves if the deal is fair. It would be a most unsatisfactory outcome if the AFL came out and said Essendon have been found guilty of x,y and z and for that they're going to be hit with a, b...
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    SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

    You can't and thats why there won't be any sanctions before finals unless Essendon agree to them. I'd be very surprised if at a minimum an injunction was granted before the hearing due to the short time frame given to Essendon to assess the charges and the fact that the charges are based on an...
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    SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

    I have no doubt that Dank is the one responsible for the supplements program going off the rails and since Essendon employed him they need to face sanctions for the actions of an employee even if he operated outside his authority. For his part Dank should be banned from the AFL for several years...
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    SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

    Personally, I believe the most disappointing thing about all of this is the lack of information provided and that most, if not all, of what has been reported is agenda driven, incomplete and/or incorrect. Making an informed opinion on whether Essendon have done anything wrong is impossible and...
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    SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

    At its most simplistic ASADA were investigating the use of banned substances as part of essendons supplements program last year. It should have been quite simple for essendon to provide details of what was provided to players, how often, in what quantities and by what method for each individual...
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    SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

    Some funny shit in the last few pages Good to see you haven't lost your sense of humour
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    SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

    Agree with all of that and I can certainly understand your frustration at being pilloried without knowing what it is your club supposedly did wrong. As an opposition supporter it is easy to sit back and make accusations and demand all sorts of wild penalties and at times I've certainly believed...
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    SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

    Yep intriguing for me, not so much for you. Maybe not the best choice of word on my part
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    SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

    Thanks in part to caro's vendetta this has very much become more about James hird than anything else to the point where I've seen suggestions that its loss of points or Hirds head which is laughable really as surely those two outcomes should be considered entirely separate As an outsider not...
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    SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

    Am I right in saying Hird is going this alone at the moment? Might make things interesting if the club and the other three go ahead with the hearing and Hird is left hanging out on his own. Probably unlikely but its an intriguing scenario
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    SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

    As an outsider I mainly lurk in this thread rather than post so as to not out stay my welcome. It's hard to find a common ground with posters on an emotive subject like this because an open board like the HTB becomes too adversarial and balanced posters can get drowned out by the more extreme...
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    SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

    Yes they do. And I don't say this to be a smart arse but unfortunately you guys will always be referred to by some people as drug cheats regardless of what happens - you can be cleared at the hearing and have no players infracted yet the tag will stick no matter how unfair it is. It's why I...
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    SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

    They aren't capabale of saying no developments today - they have to find some angle to keep people tuning in for an update and the closer it gets to a conclusion the more rabid it becomes. There was a time when the eagles were scrutinised for anything they did no matter how minor although I...
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    SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

    As always the media smell blood and are out for a kill even if they have to rely on half the facts or their own interpretation of what they think they know. Most of us are left with the task of attempting to put a jigsaw puzzle together with a whole heap of pieces missing and some which probably...
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    SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

    Forgive the intrusion but that presser was something of an eye opener for me For the most part it was a pretty standard rests conference with hird understandably upbeat about the rest of the season approaching finals despite the loss. The question about the impending report seemed innocuous...

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