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    List Mgmt. Welcome Campbell Chesser (Pick 14, 2021 National Draft)

    Carlton got an extremely good deal off us last year getting pick 3. Now they are chasing a player we have a desire to keep, and who we can take earlier than them if the draft route is threatened. It’s the time where we call in the apparent goodwill we’ve paid to build, and articulate what is...
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

    There are plenty of b/c graders (Worpel, Drew, Libba) around, but A grade insiders are less common. Sure, we can run the crapshoot of hoping to get one via SSP or MSD - but equal (or better) chance of Culley vs Newcombe. Highly rated players, positions of need, and finally multiple high draft...
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

    Newcombe also carried the team through 2x away elimination finals. The issue isn’t that a player like him is somewhat one dimensional, it’s the midfield mix (Worpel is similar plus no real line-breakers who aren’t part-time mids). Our issue is the opposite. Reid/Hewett need a contested beast...
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

    I think many forget that the likely alternative was: Barrass for 14 14 for baker #3 for 12 and Carlton’s F1 So yeah, we chose the wrong F1, but also gained a F2 and F3 for F4 swap in addition. 14 for baker will be argued for decades, but it was already done so the #3 and Barrass deals...
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    List Mgmt. Draftee, NGA and Father/Son Discussion - 2025

    Pick 7 from GC really needs to be a priority for us. With Robey pushing up rankings it means there is now an extra player in that group who will be available (it may well be Robey, or Schubert, possibly Cumming). It may be a draft night trade so we carry some picks in for GC though.
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

    Yuk. Slide from 1-5 in a draft that has maybe 5-6 players near the top bracket (so we get the dregs, rather than first choice) For a fringe (albeit young) mid and a F2 likely mid 30’s…
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

    With the need for points GC have we may be able to cobble together some picks (of more value than 1 higher pick) for GC. But need the player to agree first 😬
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

    I don’t love the stand rule in general, but at the very least make it so that if a player opts to take their 30 seconds for a set shot then stand no longer applies. Guys just run around off the mark knowing that they can get far enough to not have to kick over the man on the mark. Umpires are...
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

    Reid’s obviously not going to move from a part time ruck to a top-10-in-the-league ruck in 1 offseason, but I 100% agree - his offseason should centre on bulking up and looking to take over as #1 ruck in 2026. He’s shown he’s competitive and adaptable as a ruck, and our stocks are so poor that...
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    List Mgmt. Draftee, NGA and Father/Son Discussion - 2025

    The problem is if Cumming goes to the Tigers then that list adds one of CDT or Lindsay. The only guys that can play inside mid are Greeves (similar to Sharp) and Robey (bolter, but big queries on his disposal). We need to get 2x quality players into our midfield to develop from this draft
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    List Mgmt. Draftee, NGA and Father/Son Discussion - 2025

    Could easily end up CDT, Lindsay, Schubert for us though. That is the risk. History says teams (other than us) go for smalls over talls when talent is somewhat equal. Not getting a mid after holding multiple top 10 picks (whether 1+2 or a split) would be an unmitigated disaster
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

    Hopefully none. Bombers won’t look to split (and points are irrelevant to them). Not sure why we should trade out of the top tier of players for multiple shots at lower tiers? If we want a pick in that range we are in the box seat to buy the GC pick.
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

    Bombers may want #1/Duursma, but is it not for the same reasons that we should want to hold it? Best player, position of need, athleticism (again suits our needs). We trade it we quite possibly end up with CDT then the 3rd/4th best mid available (after academy shenanigans).
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

    Yep his rating has dropped, which is kind of my point (or more so question as to why). Was rated #1 or thereabouts last year, wins AA, Larke Medal, plays a lot of senior football. I get the athleticism question, but his CV is probably close to as good from a junior that anyone has seen for a...
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

    Post 2024 draft he was viewed as one of the top few. ESPN had him #1 https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/42038641/afl-draft-2025-top-10-way-too-early-power-rankings-dyson-sharp-zeke-uwland-willem-duursma
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

    There 100% were people saying this time last year that our F1 must be held so we could get Sharp (some saying Fred as well tbh, so swings/roundabouts). Which kind of makes it funny (or sad) that we are likely to hold 1+2 and may not take Sharp after an AA + Larke U18 campaign
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

    The funny thing is, pick 32/33 or wherever it ends up after compo carries those points (and essentially ends up in that position) for Brisbane, as Annabel is likely the first bid, whereas for us it is 40-something. Brisbane have a massive points issue, and they will push for our 15-25 range...
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

    We’re not improving our list management team if we swap 19 for Starcevich. Would he improve our performance and floor - no doubt. But something back end of 1st round is a massive overpay. It depends on restrictions but we’d be better off including it in a swap of Hollands, Chesser, 9 and...
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

    Duursma has separated himself as the clear #1 and looks a relatively safe bet as a 200 gamer (albeit a utility type for now). Why are we so keen to trade that away? We may bid (the 3x northern guys all deserve an early bid), but I think we hold the pick and use it on him.
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    Oppo Camp 2025 Hawks Death Ride

    Even pick 16-18, plus whatever the 2nd ends up, is probably a fair ish trade. I don’t watch a heap of the Hawks, but last night TB had some moments, but also doesn’t seem to be moving any better than his time with us. He may have won us 1 more game this year, but probably not moved the needle...
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

    I love the positivity. It’s going to take significant improvement from some of the younger players (absolutely possible). And we are screaming out for high end talent. Especially around the middle where it is Harley or bust for the most part. But 1,2 and another top 10 (through trading up)...
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

    I’ve seen the 2002 draft raised as a comparison of sorts (no two drafts are ever the same of course). Brendon Goddard + Daniel Wells actually sounds pretty good. Goddard + 2x the players taken 6-20…. Well you’d want to make sure that you picked Andrew Mackie or 🤢 It’s often the depth that is...
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

    CDT + Duursma + a mid (Sharp/Cumming) I think most would celebrate. But just the first 2 (at 1 & 2) rightly concerns people. I reckon Richmond will become keener and keener on CDT, might be able to get a F2 from them to swap 2 for 3.
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

    HR year we had 1 then 30 (ish) This year we likely have 1, 4, 16ish, 25ish (all after bids)
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

    I think we are better looking to move pick 2 (for a lower price) to a team who wants CDT rather than pick 1 unless Duursma is an insane flight risk. Good footballer, good athlete, looks suited to outside mid (initially for sure) maybe move to hybrid or inside. Absolute position/s of need for...
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    List Mgmt. Draftee, NGA and Father/Son Discussion - 2025

    This. Guys losing the first contest, then a 2nd (and often 3rd) Eagles player getting involved while the opposition has 1-2 players competing (and winning) at the same contest. Then bingo bango they have the spare on the outside and torch us (the other one is transition, but not sure outside...
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

    Why the desire to trade pick 1 (unless there are massive overs on offer. 5 + F1 is probably a little over but also risky). Duursma is athletic and can find the footy, then CDT who is nominal #2 is much higher risk. It feels a little like 2023 (not as high end as HR) where #1 is so obvious it...
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

    Sanity and Ralphy in the same sentence. Didn’t have that on the bingo card for this century…
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    Opinion Should the team ask for a Priority Pick 2025 edition.

    They are going to have a massive PR problem if they water down the compo from what we have requested too much. We are asking for basically what Nth got, for similar (slightly better) performance over 4 years. Asking way less than what the Suns got. I’m anti assistance (across the whole...
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    List Mgmt. Welcome Campbell Chesser (Pick 14, 2021 National Draft)

    We will 100% be on our last pick prior to then. So the decision will be redraft Chesser, take someone else in a shallow draft or hold a spot for SSP. Carlton will/should know this also. We need to stand firm publicly/privately and ask for fair compo that actually suits our needs (I.e. not 44 or...

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