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  1. Last of the Roys

    All Round Arseclown Tim Wilson

    Gee what a great start to a thread by calling a known homosexual you disagree with an arseclown. Then the first reply calls him a conservative ****ter (and by the way Tim Wilson would probably describe himself as libertarian not conservative). It is pretty pathetic in this day an age. I didn't...
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    National History - Lefty loons let loose in top paddick again

    I am reluctant to take on the great Roylion, but after reading this thread and having a look at the National History Curriculum myself, I don't think the fundamental basis for Chris Berg's ideas can be so easily dismissed. I think the central argument is that the historical basis of Western...
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    ELECTION NIGHT: The OFFICIAL RESULTS THREAD

    For what its worth (not a lot other than for interests sake) to update the Two-party preferred result - the Coalition have a 2,900 vote lead (0.02%) that has been trending down for a while with the latest counting. 87.10% of the Two-party preferred vote has been counted with at least another...
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    If Indy's back labor, what happens to abbott

    Come on - the hole black-hole thing was nothing like deceit. The ALP had their policy's costed by Treasury, probably before the election was even called. That isn't available to the Opposition. Every Opposition will make some costing mistakes because of that. Some are real mistakes, while others...
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    If Indy's back labor, what happens to abbott

    Just because someone wants consensus doesn't mean you give it to them. Especially if you are in opposition. What does consensus really mean in Westminster politics anyway????????? You agree with me and everything will be fine!!!!!! Should we all have a group hug and start signing love songs...
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    The Indies to Decide

    I now feel all three will go with the ALP. Windsor and Oakeshott have been obvious from their first words post election. Katter's comments about Rudd pretty much blew me away (calling it a good Government - yeah so good the ALP even got rid of him!). Add to that fact that Katter will want to be...
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    ELECTION NIGHT: The OFFICIAL RESULTS THREAD

    Oh come on. Treasury themselves get their forecasts wrong often by more than that amount in each budget compared to the last one they did - and remember its a four year figure and that is the high end one you are quoting. Plus add in Treasury's utter incompetence over the Mining tax and...
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    Want To Know... Ask? - The Greens

    I know all of these questions will never get answered, but for some reason it is kind of fun thinking of them: - do the Greens believe Government spending, in and of itself, is a lasting means of creating jobs? Is there any limits on this? Should the Government fully own and run essential...
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    Want To Know... Ask? - The Greens

    I have a few more: - How will Australia's economy or environment be better off if we become one of the first countries to significantly cut our carbon emissions, without any likelihood that developing nations will make any cuts at all due to their unstoppable goal to emerge from relative /...
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    ELECTION NIGHT: The OFFICIAL RESULTS THREAD

    I just read that. It basically confirms everything that has been speculated on elsewhere. It seems, barring a massive reversal, the ALP have won the election and will form a minority Government. The whole black-hole blanket media coverage had Hawker's name all over it (despite it still...
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    ELECTION NIGHT: The OFFICIAL RESULTS THREAD

    It is not much of a whisper when his cousin is Bruce Hawker (king ALP strategist) and he and Oakeshott have been meeting with Hawker, Treasury, getting Treasury costings, meeting with Garnaut and Stern, and taking shots at the Nats / Libs in the press (some deservedly - e.g. Heffernan; some...
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    ELECTION NIGHT: The OFFICIAL RESULTS THREAD

    The Coalition is currently 0.08% / 10,000 votes ahead of the Two-party preferred vote and trending upwards. This lead will probably be swamped by the inclusion of the 8 non-traditional divisions and the Get Up vote down the track, however I now think it is going to be a lot closer than I...
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    Want To Know... Ask? - The Greens

    Do the Greens support a reduction in consumption in Australia, in other developed economies and across the World in general? Do the Greens therefore believe a very significant reduction in living standards is necessary for the benefit of the environment?
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    Labor and Greens alliance, but Wilkie ...

    I think it is a big risk making such a big deal / having a formal agreement with the Greens before the Independents have decided. While people knew the Greens would side with the ALP, this quasi coalition may put the fear of God into the conservative heartland and bring a big conservative...
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    ELECTION NIGHT: The OFFICIAL RESULTS THREAD

    I think article reads as though the lead has been cut by 339 votes rather than cut to 339 votes. That is why it is not on the AEC's close seat list.
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    ELECTION NIGHT: The OFFICIAL RESULTS THREAD

    Nah Coragamite is a 900 vote lead to the ALP (921 to be precise at this point in time). No chance of this going to the Liberals having looked at the way the votes are going and how much is counted (unless of course there has been some sort of error).
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    ELECTION NIGHT: The OFFICIAL RESULTS THREAD

    The Coalition are currently a couple of thousand votes ahead on the two-party preferred basis. Apparently the big change today came about after the remaining 'Non-classic Divisions' (where it is not the traditional Coalition vs. ALP two-horse race) were taken out of the two party count at this...
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    "A kinder, gentler kind of politics"

    Well you don't actually know it is not true, because no one in the country has found out the final result. All that matters is who forms Government. If it is the Coalition then they have in fact won the election - even if it is a minority Government. Of course it could still easily be an ALP...
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    Abbott again refuses costing to treasury

    Is stable meant to be some sort of proxy for supporting whoever is already in power? Looks like the voters in these electorates support instability then. Seriously though, the ALP might be slightly more stable due the Senate, however, neither side can form a stable Government by the looks of it.
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    Abbott again refuses costing to treasury

    I have to take you up on the poll sample size point - it is wrong. The sample of 600 was a far higher (10x) proportion of voters than the (fairly accurate) Newspolls of 2500 voters done for the whole of Australia throughout the election. Do the maths 600/ about 270,000 vs 2500/ about 12,500,000...
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    What chance the Indie's will go with the Coalition?

    Here is the way I see it: - the Coalition have 72-73 seats depending on if you include the WA National or not. - the ALP have 72 seats. In all likelihood - the WA National and Katter will vote with the Coalition unless they get huge policy inducements to do otherwise - they are both...
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    which political party has more money ?

    "ALP outspends competition as campaign heats up in final week" http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/alp-outspends-competition-as-campaign-heats-up-in-final-week/story-fn59niix-1225904654783 Political advertising spending, as was the case in the last election I think, is running...
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    Ken Hentry has completely lost the plot

    Another couple of articles about Ken Henry / the super profits tax. Yeah they're obviously from a perspective opposed to Ken Henry (like the previous article), however I don't think any of the articles have got much (if anything) wrong. Will Ken Henry Spit The Dummy As Tax Takes A Hiding...
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    Ken Hentry has completely lost the plot

    Everyone seriously needs to read the following article. It is the most fantastic description of the cr@p that came out of Commonwealth Treasury / Ken Henry on the super profits tax...
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    Hockey & Tanner on Q&A

    It is not that real wages won't increase over time (as they normally do in developed economies), it is that they won't increase as much as they otherwise would have without the increase in compulsory super contribution. The money has to come from somewhere - it will come from what otherwise...
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    Rudd 'too busy' to release tax review-time for the Lib's tax policy?

    Speaking of Keynesianism, here is an amazing graph from Bolt's blog from the IPA from a while back. (The left hand side is meant to be percentage point not percentage). http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/P165/
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    ETS is inevitable

    Having just read this http://sites.google.com/site/globalwarmingquestions/sealevel MISLEADING CLAIMS ABOUT SEA LEVEL RISES (I wasn't looking for it, I just happened to come across it), I now even doubt that 3.2mm figure you are quoting. Sounds like some of the old tricks turned to sea levels...
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    Pink Batts Scheme

    Three more interesting articles on this issue http://www.news.com.au/national/thousands-jobless-after-batt-flip/story-e6frfkvr-1225832461363?from=igoogle+gadget+compact+news_rss http://www.theaustralian.com.au/politics/insulation-scams-hit-160000/story-e6frgczf-1225832389556...
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    ETS is inevitable

    Pick any trend period you want hey BP, as long as it suits your cause. Over 100 years it is 1.6mm per year (I just put that in because that is what was quoted in the article and it is a figure I had seen elsewhere before), over your much shorter period you get 3.2mm. OMFG 3.2MM PER YEAR...
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    Pink Batts Scheme

    I too cannot believe the people defending the Government over this one. It is such the most obvious f*ckup of all time. Any policy adviser in government could see all this coming when this scheme was announced. That of course does not excuse the dodgy installers who are directly responsible for...

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