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  1. notliondown

    NO TROLLS Homophobia in the AFL - 4 Corners

    Hahaha I wish!!! Until recently I voted conservative. And had I gone to uni it would have been quite a while ago. You're right. My prism maybe is idealistic. It's what I hope we strive for. My view of the world is shaped by those who accepted me for who I am. By the people who I thought would...
  2. notliondown

    NO TROLLS Homophobia in the AFL - 4 Corners

    Your fixation on the physical is, well, immature. It's such a small piece of who people are. And by people I mean ANYONE and EVERYONE. I can't help those who are so small minded that they would overlook every other aspects of a persons being simply because their imagination runs wild. To...
  3. notliondown

    NO TROLLS Homophobia in the AFL - 4 Corners

    I guess we had to get to this point sometime right? Best you don't do any research on the % of straight couples, particularly men, who like "to be disgusting". Better yet best you don't do any research on pegging. And best you hope none of your mates fall into either of those categories. Look...
  4. notliondown

    NO TROLLS Homophobia in the AFL - 4 Corners

    As I said, I beleive your heart is in the right place. And fundamentally I agree with your version of Eutopia. My question is how do we get there? Because it won't happen by itself. And by your posts you want to do nothing to faciltate or further the progress of that happening. That's why...
  5. notliondown

    NO TROLLS Homophobia in the AFL - 4 Corners

    Now go away and think about having all of those things that you so flippantly take for granted and become terrified that your sexuality gets to change all of it. Surely you've got from the Mitch's statement that none of things you list he was openly able to do??? I said it in a thread on our...
  6. notliondown

    NO TROLLS Homophobia in the AFL - 4 Corners

    Does being recognised by the leading body of psychiatrists in the US count? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia In 1992, the American Psychiatric Association, recognizing the power of the stigma against homosexuality, issued the following statement, reaffirmed by the Board of Trustees...
  7. notliondown

    NO TROLLS Homophobia in the AFL - 4 Corners

    To be honest I think the media to a large degree wouldn't be the problem. For sure there will be a period of curiosity but once you are out the thrill of the chase is gone and what was a secret suddenly fades. The news cycle is incredibly short these days and the next big thing will push this...
  8. notliondown

    NO TROLLS Homophobia in the AFL - 4 Corners

    I agree with you 100% - the idea that being authentic would make you an instant celebrity or oddity definitely plays a part in the lack of players making the decision. Few if any want to be famous - especially for just being the gay player. Just as lots of straight players feel the same way...
  9. notliondown

    NO TROLLS Homophobia in the AFL - 4 Corners

    Sorry that was badly worded on my part... I edited after I posted.
  10. notliondown

    NO TROLLS Homophobia in the AFL - 4 Corners

    Maybe it is a contest? Why hasn't it happened in the AFL? Just because it happens rarely elsewhere doesn't make the AFL environment worse. You're right... most likely hundreds of gay players of many codes have chosen to not publicly come out. But maybe that's because those sports too have...
  11. notliondown

    NO TROLLS Homophobia in the AFL - 4 Corners

    Aaargh... Agenda. Woke. Shove down our throats. Leftist. God that crap makes me want to puke. It's the same sh*t packaged different ways. I promise you, as someone who struggled like hell with who they were for decades, no one wants to shove anything down your throat. Most of us were too...
  12. notliondown

    NO TROLLS Homophobia in the AFL - 4 Corners

    Comparing the AFLW and AFL is like comparing apples and oranges. Many of the players had partners before the comp started or were out and known to friends and team mates. The comp was born when those relationships and partnerships were already in place and often long term. No one expected the...
  13. notliondown

    NO TROLLS Homophobia in the AFL - 4 Corners

    You realise people are allowed to learn and grow right?
  14. notliondown

    NO TROLLS Homophobia in the AFL - 4 Corners

    That's exactly the question that this show should have forced the AFL and the clubs to ask themselves. It's obviously hard to know what happens inside clubs now but lets start with - a zero tolerance to any word or inference that refers to sexuality, in the same way that we have done with first...
  15. notliondown

    NO TROLLS Homophobia in the AFL - 4 Corners

    Geez the whole it's none of our business arguments frustrate me... and it completely misses the point of the whole investigation and the larger issue in general. If your not interested in whether or not a player is gay don't watch, don't listen. Perhaps don't make the effort of going into a...

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