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  1. Gralin

    Health Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 6

    Independence of Police lol. They are and have always been the enforcers for their governments. The incarceration rates of First Nations people, especially women in Vic has gone up massively under Andrews He's building more prisons, he can fine a cool $28mil for a new police station but not in...
  2. Gralin

    Society & Culture Things in life you just don't understand - Part 4

    Always fun to see who knows what
  3. Gralin

    Health Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 6

    Does she know it's not an either or situation? Like history is not full people opposing tyrants by eating horse paste
  4. Gralin

    Health Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 6

    They are at 54% of total population double doses and we are at 37% UK is at 65% and both US and UK should also have much higher rates of natural immunity.
  5. Gralin

    Health Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 6

    They are like 5% in front of Australia for % vaccinated they slowed down really bad a lot of people refusing to get vaccinated over there Ok they are a bit further in front as a % it total population but still only half vaccinated
  6. Gralin

    Health Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 6

    So yeah that model is predicting cases will peak just before we reach 70% double doses, so a month from now. So predicting we won't see vaccination rates imoact the curve like it has in NSW, Denmark and many other places. Seems to be completely fabricated trash with no basis in real world data
  7. Gralin

    Health Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 6

    So yeah the model being used in Vic makes no sense
  8. Gralin

    Health Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 6

    As they say all models are wrong, some are just more wrong. There have been some really bad models produced and used by our governments. My biggest issue is they pick one model from one place and base decisions off it. If states are using Doherty and Burnet then they are using two, but it...
  9. Gralin

    Health Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 6

    I was asking where the line is for you. It appears for Andrews it's pretty low. I've said I would like to have seen something more than what we got but less than what NSW is doing as I think they are in for a world of hurt when they open up to the extent they plan on doing at 70% We shall see...
  10. Gralin

    Health Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 6

    How many deaths are acceptable? Like there has to be a line somewhere, a point at which you go it's not worth the cost. They are predicting that by mid Jan with their current plan that 2000+ people will die from covid and the easing of restrictions will contribute to that number. Also it's...
  11. Gralin

    Health Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 6

    NSW and VIC both used Burnet Institute modelling but somehow the Vic model is way more pessimistic about the effect of vaccines. Mind you Burnet Institute are big on curfews as being effective along with other draconian measures and small on vaccines being of any value. They are part of a group...
  12. Gralin

    Health Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 6

    So no difference or you don't know but just want to complain?
  13. Gralin

    Health Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 6

    How different is the Vic plan to NSW?
  14. Gralin

    Health Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 6

    Or following the rules, or don't live near any friend or family
  15. Gralin

    Health Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 6

    Have you seen the UK? And that's with more people having natural immunity from having had covid
  16. Gralin

    Health Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 6

    clearly we've had some Premiers indicate that they wont open to states with community transmission, like publicly that 80% isn't enough for them to consider that
  17. Gralin

    Health Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 6

    apparently when they lift curfew at 70% we only get an increase to 25kms in our travel radius that doesn't go away until 80%
  18. Gralin

    Health Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 6

    So they are predicting that daily new cases will peak mid december at 4k a day, hospitliastions will peak around new years and that we will have 2200 deaths by mid Jan
  19. Gralin

    Health Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 6

    So another 5 weeks of curfew and almost 7 weeks before you can have anyone in your home