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  1. Chameleon75

    2019 Labor Leadership Non-Election - Albanese v Nobody

    They’re not attracting greens voters though, greens have stabilised at 10% and they don’t identify with labor, their preferences will still flow to labor on the most part. They might pull some votes from ON, but on the whole it’s the blue collar workers they need to get back, the “Howard’s...
  2. Chameleon75

    2019 Labor Leadership Non-Election - Albanese v Nobody

    The reason I think Albo should be the leader is that he hates the greens. One problem labor has is that it’s perceived as being in defacto coalition with the greens. If he can break that, then it’s one step towards rehabilitation.
  3. Chameleon75

    The Real Federal Politics Discussion Thread (No Left v Right)

    I think they’re going to try and inflate the housing market. APRA have loosened loan requirements on the banks, the reserve bank has signalled that they’re going to lower rates and requested that the government provide stimulus. Housing approval is down 30%, if they don’t encourage investment...
  4. Chameleon75

    Climate change is the "pivot point" of Australian politics: party allegiances are ded

    Yea trumps broken with the liberal economic consensus, there are similarities but differences to. Here both majors are onboard with the economic consensus, I think the issue is simpler, household debt at record highs, credit growth at a 25year low and stagnant wages. Basically household...
  5. Chameleon75

    The Australian Greens - What are they Doing?

    The greens target demographic is middle class professionals, traditionally this demographic hasn’t identified strongly with labor, they’ve tended to swing around a bit. Labor has moved closer to the greens on issues with the view to absorbing their primary votes, it hasn’t happened they don’t...
  6. Chameleon75

    Climate change is the "pivot point" of Australian politics: party allegiances are ded

    Unions and the alp collaborated with business to set in place reforms that ultimately offshored jobs and reduced pay for the remaining factory jobs, it has damaged both of them in respect to workers trusting them.
  7. Chameleon75

    Climate change is the "pivot point" of Australian politics: party allegiances are ded

    Unions were damaged by the accords of the 80’s, if their not improving pay and conditions what’s the point.
  8. Chameleon75

    Climate change is the "pivot point" of Australian politics: party allegiances are ded

    To workers climate change policy = economic reform, and economic reform = job losses and reduced pay and conditions. Labor lost blue collar workers by the start of the 90’s, the economic reforms of the 80’s benefited factory owners who offshored operations taking advantage of 3rd world wages...
  9. Chameleon75

    Peter Dutton’s racism to the bottom

    I was pointing out the strategy, weather it works or not, well the proof is in the eating.
  10. Chameleon75

    Fairfax (now Nine) and other left-wing media bias in Australian political coverage

    Could’ve been worse, like in 87 when James? Fairfax intervened and they pulled their endorsement from print.
  11. Chameleon75

    Polls Thread Mk III

    Kevin Bonham has commented on this, suspicious of poll herding, he says that with random polling statistically around 1/3 should be outside the margin of error, but there’s been something like 17 consecutive polls within one percent of each other.
  12. Chameleon75

    The Liberal Party - How long?

    John Hewson on the business On Morrison: he’s basically an advertising man, he has plenty of slogans, ask him a question and you’ll get a slogan, don’t bother asking him a follow up question on details because there isn’t any. Seem Keating isn’t the only one with venom
  13. Chameleon75

    Bob Hawke Has Died

    Just an excuse to hit the early openers
  14. Chameleon75

    Coalition deliberately brings murderers to settle in australia

    Last November wasn’t it?
  15. Chameleon75

    People that hand out how-to-vote cards

    I’ve been one that advocates scrapping htv cards, Kevin Bonham raised an interesting point that I haven’t considered, htv cards are away of managing the informal vote among those with low literacy
  16. Chameleon75

    People that hand out how-to-vote cards

    I think htv cards are are no longer required. In the past minor parties had difficulty getting their message across, htv from the majors helped inform which minors were more closely aligned with their positions. Things have changed though, with the internet anyone can research the minors if...
  17. Chameleon75

    Peter Dutton’s racism to the bottom

    Keating was in melbourne today, his comments today were calculated to hopefully flush Dutton out, if his name is in the news it’s good for the alp in Vic. Morrison was smart enough to see this and brushed questions aside. Dutton on the other hand, to use another Keating line, is the salmon...
  18. Chameleon75

    The Liberal Party - How long?

    Depends on the result, if it’s close I think Morrison will stay on, he’s only been there 5 mins and there would be difficulties getting the moderates and conservatives to agree on another candidate. If it’s a drubbing then all bets are off.
  19. Chameleon75

    Polls Thread Mk III

    Generally with ON around 52-3% go lnp, Newspoll is assuming a higher rate of 60% based on WA state election