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Both are awesome so kind of a silly thread when Ashcroft is just a kid Only worrying thing I've seen with Ashcroft is he has no left foot Could hinder him a bit going fwd.

But he's not because his only elite physical attribute is endurance running Not fast not strong and a s**t kick and s**t overhead.

Scully had plenty of good games.

"Out and out out superstar." Yep ok Luke Darcy Give it a spell. He's not in the top 5 players of the 13th placed slide. So he's not top 100 in the comp. Now that doesn't make him s**t. But it makes miles away from being a star.

"As a junior". That's his problem. Still plays an under 12 style of game chasing the ball around.. He's simply rubbish at AFL level now. Game has gone past him. Running around in circles racking up stats doing dinky kicks and handballs is no longer tolerated in the AFL. People are slow to...

It's not true though. Walsh's game is very limited. No overhead game No goal sense Kick is shallow Not tough Poor game sense He plays like he's in under 12s. Run around back for handball. Get handball. Handball sideways. Repeat He's a serial and pathological stat padder He's better off...

No . No he couldn't He lacks so many attributes the other two have His only attribute is running. That's all He's not even close.

Rozee brilliant again tonight.

If so then carlton fans are ******* delusional about their relative abilities Walsh is Tom Scully 2.0. Over paid and over hyped. A nothing player

Spot on. He's very much like Tom Scully Great comparison Good runner for sure.

Not pointless. Five years we have had pro Carlton propaganda shoved down out throats from a parochial Vic media who want to call everyone a "superstar" and enough is enough. He ain't no superstar. I'm so sick of Vic players all getting over hyped. He's very very very ordinary

But what is his point? I mean I don't even get what his best is He's a stat pader. His entire game style is obsolete He's not top 100 in the comp.

Anyone arguing for Walsh is either his mum or a completely delusional parochial Victorian. Or Luke Darcy.

He's just s**t. His stats are s**t little dinky handballs and one twos. He's s**t U can argue with me all night and I don't care. Rozee is a miles better footballer. Every facet of the game bar stat padding s**t dinky little stats which is all Walsh knows. He's a pointless player.

Walsh has 34 goals for his entire career Rozee 85.

Seriously I don't care about his numbers. He's s**t So far off AA it's not funny.

Jesus Christ is anyone seriously still saying Walsh? He's absolutely rubbish

Looks like Jane and plays like Tarzan. Much better than the other way around.

Only people supporting Walsh are hardcore Vics. The types of people who posters of Teddy Whitten and Dan Andrews on their bedroom walls.

Fair point really... Just pick out three random blokes with similar haircuts.