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    NO TROLLS Angus Brayshaw retires

    I would like to see something positive come out of the sad retirement of Angus Brayshaw. Trends in Australian rules football at all levels follow on from trends at senior AFL level, and the trend of players getting away with committing increasingly frequent reckless/dangerous acts on the...
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    NO TROLLS Angus Brayshaw retires

    To turn your reasoning back on itself. You are essentially saying that no care needs to be taken in consideration for other players on the field. It’s a contact sport so bad luck for anyone who gets in your way and gets hurt. Is that it?
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    Opinion What unpopular AFL opinions do you have? - Part 2

    There are many problems with Dr Reid's conduct, whilst he may have expressed reservations to his superiors in the club hierarchy. Clearly, he did not take direct action using his position as the club's head doctor to shut the program down, nor does it appear that the players were informed of his...
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    Opinion What unpopular AFL opinions do you have? - Part 2

    I think it was one solitary Essendon player, not players, David 'I'm scared of needles' Zaharakis. He may have been smarter that the rest or just genuinely hated needles. So, players are more deserving of punishment if they are older? He was still a young man of 27, and a bit of a late bloomer...
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    Opinion What unpopular AFL opinions do you have? - Part 2

    Why report something you have been repeatedly assured was kosher? About the only reliable evidence against Watson was his own self-testimony in media interviews, so his words could be held against him, but apparently, he should still get an extra penalty for not self-incriminating enough. You...
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    Opinion What unpopular AFL opinions do you have? - Part 2

    I think you have misinterpreted my position in a few ways. Firstly, I don’t think the Essendon player suspensions were particularly 'fair', I think two years suspension for trusting professional medical staff was an overly severe punishment. I did however believe that there had to be a...
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    Opinion What unpopular AFL opinions do you have? - Part 2

    I think it is you who appears to be trolling me rather than the other way around. It is interesting that you keep comparing what Lynch did to Essendon, rather than Jobe. Who is defending Essendon's conduct and suggesting the club deserved leniency? Certainly not me. BTW I also think you are...
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    Opinion What unpopular AFL opinions do you have? - Part 2

    Surprised that you are so lenient on Lynch then. The benefits of his doping certainly wouldn’t have been contained within a single season. Had he not doped he would have almost certainly been forced into early retirement so his doping arguably still cost other athletes their careers. I would...
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    Opinion What unpopular AFL opinions do you have? - Part 2

    There is plenty of hypocrisy in your position. Salary cap breaches are cheating. Especially intentional premeditated breaches as many were. That sort of cheating seems ok by you though, not even comparable, and can therefore go unpunished even if it helps that club achieve the ultimate goal of...
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    Opinion What unpopular AFL opinions do you have? - Part 2

    Possibly because multiple clubs including Essendon have won Premierships and subsequently been shown to have cheated the salary cap, yet still kept their flags. Can you be bloody minded enough to suggest a bloke who did not knowingly take anything that transgressed the rules, should not only...
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    Opinion What unpopular AFL opinions do you have? - Part 2

    In that previous era they enforced the other rules as I suggested. The problem with removing the prior opportunity condition and maintaining the current ultra lax approach to tackling rules is that there would be a resultant disincentive for players to take possession unless they are well clear...
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    Opinion What unpopular AFL opinions do you have? - Part 2

    Prior opportunity has to stay, it would be disastrous to remove it. The stoppage problem has been created by allowing secondary tacklers to recklessly pile on and trap the ball in intentionally either to gain a free kick or just force a ball up. If umpires paid 'in the back' and 'over the...
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    Opinion What unpopular AFL opinions do you have? - Part 2

    Maybe so, but it also proved awards don't have to revoked.
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    Opinion What unpopular AFL opinions do you have? - Part 2

    And yet he got to keep his Crichton Medal.🤔
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    Opinion What unpopular AFL opinions do you have? - Part 2

    You and a few others seem to have missed half the debate and at least partially misunderstood my position. I agree that Essendon did the wrong thing and needed to be punished. Even though the players were given dodgy advice by medical staff, I also recognise that they couldn’t be completely...
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    Opinion What unpopular AFL opinions do you have? - Part 2

    Ok so let’s recap. Watson never tested positive to a banned substance and was assured by his club medical staff that whatever supplements they were giving him at the time were definitely legal, so never knowingly took any PEDs. He only got suspended years later after it was determined that...
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    Opinion What unpopular AFL opinions do you have? - Part 2

    No retrospective match video reviews being undertaken years after the fact though. If such action gets taken, then quite a few medals might have to be returned\redistributed.
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    Opinion What unpopular AFL opinions do you have? - Part 2

    You misunderstand, it's not a race result. It's effectively a glorified Miss Congeniality style award based on umpire's judgements for that season, supposedly independent of match results.
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    Opinion What unpopular AFL opinions do you have? - Part 2

    Who said it was OK? Besides he was punished/suspended. How many times do you need to punish someone for the same crime? Both Cothin and Mitchell were suspended for on field indiscretions during their career. Should that make them ineligible to win any form of best and fairest award, and should...
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    Opinion What unpopular AFL opinions do you have? - Part 2

    Because it is an umpire's award for playing conduct during that season. It's not a tainted race result or championship record. It also appears that the drug program had negligible impact on his performance during that season. The fact that his club pushed their players into a drug program and...
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    Opinion What unpopular AFL opinions do you have? - Part 2

    It might also be such a painful process to do so that it might help ensure that such a travesty of justice never occurs again. I'm not a Dons fan but think there was absolutely no need for the AFL to take away Jobe's medal. It was not required by any rule and was an unnecessary act of malicious...
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    Opinion What unpopular AFL opinions do you have? - Part 2

    That the 2023 Grand Final wasn't one of the all time great games, as so many commentators and Collingwood supporters keep annoyingly saying. Sure, it was a very good and very entertaining game. It was close on the score board right until the end, had some great pieces of play, some very good...
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    When will the Carlton FC Arrive?

    For what it's worth, I think the Carlton will turn the corner when they stop thinking about what has gone wrong in the past. For decades we have been hearing how harsh those draft penalties for the salary cap breaches were and how badly they hamstrung the club going forward. What a load of...
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    Play Nice The 'all things Carlton' mega-thread

    To be clear, there is no difference between excuses or reasons. An excuse is a reason given to explain why something didn't work out as hoped or expected. I'm not saying that excuses are never valid. Often they are completely valid. What I'm saying is that in a highly competitive highly...
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    Play Nice The 'all things Carlton' mega-thread

    This sort of reaction and defence of rebuilding strategies and the people that execute them, is the reason why clubs tend to get trapped in a cycle. There are always plenty of excuses and scape goats; Things were so bad we had to .... You can't judge them yet .... It not a fair comparison ...
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    Play Nice The 'all things Carlton' mega-thread

    The reason that I mention the ladder position is it is the only non subjective assessment of where clubs are really at. People claim that lists are better or worse then they really are all the time, everyone has their own opinions. I don't see enough of Carlton to be able to precisely assess...
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    Play Nice The 'all things Carlton' mega-thread

    The age old question, is it the list or the coach? The answer is that it is always a combination, but therein lies the true motivation behind rebuilding. It is coaches making sure that the answer to why they are performing badly is definitely the List! So they can't be blamed or even...
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    Play Nice The 'all things Carlton' mega-thread

    What is the reason for Carlton's recent malaise? Well, I think a quick read of the pages of this thread might give you a bit of the gist. What I saw was a varied list of past mistakes and potential scapegoats. I saw very little about what Carlton need to do to fix their current situation...
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    Play Nice The 'all things Carlton' mega-thread

    A lot of people agree with you, but I think everyone who does needs to question this assumption more thoroughly. Name all the AFL premiership coaches that have successfully 'rebuilt' in the manner that your club and so many others (including my own during a dark period) seem to favour? Now...
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    Play Nice The 'all things Carlton' mega-thread

    I think during Bolton's tenure, the critical point where I would have done things differently would have been the 2016 trade/draft period. Whether it was keeping Tuohy or replacing him with a similar standard and level of maturity player, or making other independent moves, I think Carlton...
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