So much talent that guy. Pissed it all away. Souths gave him a lifeline but he couldn't even take that. No self-discipline.
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Thanks for that perspective. That's what I wanted. Obviously I know he got 3 goals as I watched the game but for me there wasn't much that stood out - wasn't like he clunked 10 marks and kicked three bombs. Didn't see him in the two weeks previous so I guess he didn't play.
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Everyone seems impressed by whatever Voss has done at Peel. I just haven't seen it but would love opinions. I think Taberner will get selected before him which no doubt will cause this board to meltdown but Treacy and Jacko need someone to draw the best defender, just can't see Voss doing that...
Because like us, they went in huge favourites and lost to much lesser teams. But the sky hasn't fallen in and they bounced back. Not guaranteed sure, but we might bounce back too.
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I agree. Apart from Reid obviously and Waterman, their best last night were the older players, Yeo, Gov, Kelly, Duggan. They don't have much between the older guys and Reid.
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I think this is right. He needs a run of 5-6 games somewhere. If we're looking to still make finals, it's a risk playing him in the firsts that long as he looks really lost. If we're going for development, play him. Despite last night, we should still be aiming for finals. Can't chuck it in...
Like to see 8-10 changes after that, but it's not going to happen.
Walters - Freddie
Amiss - Tabs
Erasmus - Brodie
Emmett - Switta
Hughes - Chapman
Would also like to squeeze Simpson in, and some more run and creativity from half back, Wagner perhaps? Sturt gets another chance, Banners sub...
I don't think Frederick brings the pressure enough either. Certainly not consistently anyway. And then there's scoreboard pressure and all our forwards are guilty of missing gimmes early in games. If you're going to play this style of game, you have to take your chances in the periods where...
Well I guess there was a couple of games this year where Tabs kicked a couple of goals too. Coming back from an injury and little football. All players have their critics.
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I think the point is that he's done nothing since. Three games and like 8 kicks total. He just looks completely shot.
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They were more than listless. They were downright embarrassing. I wasn't embarrassed with them last week or v Carlton. I am perplexed how you can be so hard on the coach yet a complete apologist for the players, many of who were disgraceful tonight.
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I think we could try Simpson. Switta could come in. Let's face it, 3 kicks a game isn't too much. I'm sure they could get to a few more contests than Sonny can at the moment too.
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Sonny has had a grand total of 8 kicks in the last three games. If we can't replace that with someone with higher output we are in a much more dire position than I thought.
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Not many positives but:
1. No more priority pick talk for Eagles.
2. Changes have to be made - Chappy, Worner, Stanley, Simpson, Brodie and others ready to come in.
3. Clear now that some of our players are just not up to it.
4. I don't have to go to work until Friday.
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Very sad to see that he has fallen off a cliff the last three weeks. Unable to compete, can't get to any contests. I know he's been written off before but if he's not carrying an injury, his time is nigh.
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Smashed by one of the worst teams in AFL history. One that the footy world has been talking about giving priority picks. Just completely unacceptable from the players tonight. Not sure how they can sleep with that. Shame on them.
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Disagree. Can't even fathom how you'd put them in the same conversation after tonight's efforts, or even the last few weeks for that matter.
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Something stinks. I would've been disappointed with only a 4-5 goal win tonight. But for Fitzroy to not only beat us, but smash our percentage too, is almost season ending. These guys need to answer to the members and supporters.
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I'm talking about early misses on goal early in games, not blaming those two for the way we're playing. Obviously important to quieten their crowd early. But if it's not those two missing early sitters, it's Switta or Freddie. Been happening all year in the first 5 minutes of games.
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If Treacy and Banners kick early sitters, the game would've likely played out completely differently. Our players always miss early chances.
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