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Thats micro managing mate A lot of us are encompassing 35 years of BS as a whole ... that always leads to the same endeth

For me it has been reduced to this I view victories now as "temporary delays on inevitable failure" When whoever it was took that mark about 70 out with 2 minutes to go I said to my mate ... watch him bomb long instead of possessing the ball and picking our way through and methodically getting...

I just cant do it anymore invokes pure anger of the serial killer kind ... Hardwick ... "it is what it is" .... to dam f.... right mate

And Taylor Hunt ... Yarran gave up two years ago but we have such a great record In turning around troubled footballers

And Moore ....

Can someone remind me again why Dom Tyson dosnt play for Richmond ?

At last 3-4 in the VFL .

This bloke is an A grade , top liner who in a quarter and a bit of footy v the Lions showed us just how good he can still be . Could be a massive X factor going into Sept. and should be given every opportunity . Think Stewy Dew .

concur wholeheartedly

its called the blatant reality .. ignore it if you will

The issue is you have blokes like Madonna ( count on one hand how many games ), Mc Bean ( no games ) Elton ( 1 game i think ) and others that that plug away in the VFL for years and then we take guys like Thomas , Petterd and Hunt and they walk straight into the line up stepping straight over...

Too early to bump this ? The pattern not formed yet of collapsing under the wieght of expectation or are we still collating evidence ???o_O

Of course it makes sense , but im liking Hardwicks mantra of taking gilt edge juniors and playing them upside down in an effort to reinvent them before they step out onto the ground . I think its starting to work .

Add Thomas and Petterd ... what did he also say about elite footskills ?

Lmaoooo ... basically echoing everything i am saying

I do agree we were very ordinary when Frawley walked out the door but once again i'll reiterate , in Wallace's presser he said he took the richmond job because he felt he had more to work with at Punt Rd. .. Yes ...Hawks drafted beautifully and yes they made some correct and difficult decisions...

You clearly didnt digest any of the OP . Im advocating not making excuses for being s**t for the first 3 years of a coaches tenure - im advocating getting results from what you have in front of you now . Top clubs/coaches draw the best out of any individual ... instead of saying , like we...

Give the man a cigar

Good post ... i dont think the club by choice or whatever , is being complacent . My point is that not being more demanding of ourselves in the immediate creates this vicious circle that continually plays out whereby instead of playing every game as our last , to this culture of "oh well - we...

Because he came in and started working immediately with what he had .. building up his players , giving direction and leadership .. instilling a game plan and self belief ... instead of telling the bulk of the list that they were s**t

They point is we were coming from a place where there was zero expectation as our season was written off ... its very different place mentally .

The run of 9 wins last year was achieved primarily because we had nothing to lose and there was no inferred mental pressure to perform .. the shackles were off .

This ^^^ .. gets the point ;-)

Frawley was a bit of an abberation given he actually made finals in his second year so im drawing primarily on Hardwicks and Wallaces first three years and that is ... The first 3 years of their tenures by way of negotiation and interview process , were widely regarded as rebuilding years as...

Dont worry Sante i havent thrown the baby out with the bath water just yet - but the way we have lost to 2 young "work in progress" lists by being tested both mentally and physically and coming up with no answers , you have to admit , gives good reason to raise more than a cursory eyebrow ...

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Complacency and excuses to underperform in the "now" ... and when it comes time to reep what we have sown we collapse under the weight of expectation . Anyone see a pattern forming ?

Welcome back Coach Required ...LMAO

absolute nonsense

If the most important fans are watching it on the Telly WTF does in matter where we play then ? .. oh yeah .. great idea .. drag the boys up to cairns to play in sapping humidity instead of running around at the G The club is growing and thriving without selling home games