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Sources indicated a new variation of the drug ice has hit WA. The drug is reported to have a less harsh come down and it virtually undetectable. History would suggest that at least 3 Eagles players will have sampled by Sunday, ruining their top 4 hopes. So if you are a true Eagles...

Stupidest post of 2011. Well done.

ha ha ha - you walked into that one!! North were gutless for not standing up for what was fair??? What the **** do you think they are doing now!!! The fixture is unfair you ****, and when North point that out, it is called whinging!! We are not asking for an advantage, we are asking for an...

STFU? I thought it was Eddie whose whinging started all thist? Am I wrong? McChins is annoyed a being put in his place. And the fact that he is so defensive over this is a stark indication that he knows Collingwood get a clear advantage over the rest of the league via the fixture...

Do you classify everything Eddie goes on about in the media (e.g about Brisbane's salary cap) as whinging? Because it would make Eddie the biggest whinger in the AFL.

yep, classic robaba. hero.

What happend to Tenace? And Hawkins? Tambling just wasn't up to it. Doubt he would have been a star anywhere.

Please explain who was the first to whinge in this case.

FFS, when will this sink in? We shouldn't have a system where clubs lobby for the fixture they get. It is ridiculous.

No. If Eddie wants to make the point that Collingwood do not need any favourable fixturing, he should lobby that no-one gets a permanent fixture. If he is happy with the status quo, and how it benefits his club, he should not whinge when the AFL comes out with a policy aimed at closing the...

Maybe, but when you were diving for pathetic priority picks a few years ago, you still got the draw of a contender.

They usually get about 60K. This year a bit higher as Collingwood won the flag. If you made it 3rd vs 4th from the previous year, you would get around that each year and would be more likely to get a cracker of a game, which is something people would start to look forward to watching on their...

oh FFS. They are one team of 17. They cannot opt out of playing anyone. It is a football league, and it should be scheduled as a football league so that we have the best games on at the best times. That will ensure growth of the game, not using the AFL as Collingwood's private marketing tool.

Nice to see you and a couple of other Melbourne supporters in this thread are happy for Melbourne to be Collingwood's bitch.

About 15,000 less than would turn out to see Collingwood play Port.

No, it is not exactly what I want. It is not Eddie's decision to make. The fact that he thinks it is, is ridiculously arrogant. And why should North get it if it does become available? Why should any club be guaranteed a blockbuster? It shouldn't be about who speaks loudest in the...

I don't care what Andy D says, putting clubs that have performed the previous year in to the key time slots will mean exciting, prime time veiwing and will help the league and help grow the brand of every club. It would take time, you cannot undo 10+ years of favourable fixturing overnight, but...

Look, if you want to make things up, take it somewhere else. North have gone through and survived much worse than Collingwood losing a few blockbusters. I am happy to see my club take it chances. Are you happy to give up all the recurring blockbusters and have a fair, rolling draw? You...

Yes, it is a terrible system. It should change to a formula where the fixture is decided on the previous years results and there are no recurring games. It is reward for performance and will stop the farce that we have at the moment in what is supposed to be a professional sport.

Wrong. They are impacting the integrity of the football fixture. The league will be fine and still very rich without these games going to the same clubs each year, unless Collingwood does not think it will be able to compete with the cut in revenue?

Pedo's great form this year makes it hard. I would like to see Tarrant get some games now that finals are all but shot, but one of he or Hansen needs to play twos to fit Hamish in.

We have to get a look at Goldy and Hamish together.

Surely that is on the coaches head? He is a very unimpressive coach, Matty Primus.

Agreed. Goodnight.

I go to every twilight game, but not everyone is like that - for any club. My original point was it is a less attractive timeslot and having to many of them hinders membership growth and attendance. It is not a good situation, so the solution is - don't lump the lions share of the twilight...

Seriously, I don't know how much longer I can go on with this. You are chipping in on about 6 different agruments and you have no idea what point you are arguing. Focus. Let me put it to you in point form for you: A fair fixture is good for the integrity of the game A fair fixture...

So is your point still that Collingwood supporters turn up no matter who and no matter where? Or are you arguing my point now? Collingwood have a much larger supporter base than North. They also have huge advantages over North in selling their fixture to their fans. They also have the same...

Why don't they turn up? Becuase it is not as attractive a tmeslot. Try to keep up. No, Colllingwood fans, like every other teams fans, make decisions based on the attractiveness of the game. Try to keep up.

So you have more supporters. That is no surprise in a two team state. And it is no surprise you can fleece your supporters given you have a joke of a stadium. But having a fair draw will not only improve the integrity of the competition, it will help North to grow in a much harder market...

Good on you. You are so hardcore and you live in a two team state without an adequate stadium. But there was still 5,000 les at your only twilight game compared to your only Friday night game at Patersons, despite the fact that people like you 'can't even get a ticket!!' In the same numbers...