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Their injury list is really bad, but its not that close to ours at our worst last year. Just picking a random flogging (we had a few). Rd 10 v Hawthorn 2023 West Coast outs from best 22...

Vic clubs would be upset he wasn’t a part of some academy or some such where they get a free swing.

Saints - 2 wins Crows - 1 win Hawks - 0 wins Dogs - 2 wins North - 0 wins Perhaps beat a side that has more than the single solitary win more than West Coast and we can talk.

Simmo confirmed Ryan won't play this week in press conference.

And the best player in the draft went a couple of picks later due to academies, which is relevant to the questions as to how much a PP actually helps.

Great player. Bont, J Cameron, Green, Greene, Rozee, N Daicos, Gawn, Oliver, Petracca, Curnow are 10 blokes however who are honestly very clearly well over and above him as a player. Then you have the likes of Neale, Heeney, Guilden, Andrews, Taylor, C Cameron, May, De Goey, Guilden...

I agree we split. But I think North and would be crazy not to, assuming the current top players are mids as expected. They just must take talls, so splitting to get the best tall in draft and getting good change just has to be their strategy. Hawks desperately need a top line mid so they are...

It actually wasn’t whole career he asked. Whole life was the context. Which is very different

Well that’s definitely correct for 3 of them. North’s senior players seem to be more of a hinderance at the moment

It would be as a UFA, but no one will give home enough years to trigger band 1.

Chess did manage to be that dump kick option once (in the last quarter I am pretty sure). It was noticeable because I'm not sure he has ever done that before.

Remember 30 years ago when Sumich was my favourite player? It makes me sad to be true

Hmmm

Go through law school and you will see the likes which get a degree.

Saw today he is. It’s than touches. Contests, tackles. Really great. Will be a weapon when we are good

Shouldn’t have even been a free kick

Yes. Different era but Judd was not this. Judd was showing glimpses of the player he would be. Cousins too BTW, he came out the block. Harley is like….already there yet there is more to come. I can’t remember anything like it

Ouch man. Ouch

Can anyone else smell that?

A bit upset there mate?

Hey Freo Eagles have scored more at half time than you scored all game last night, and the week before. This is why you lose. Not umpires. Not conspiracies. You’re welcome. 😊

Fair chance they aren’t telling Richmond anything they don’t already know

I know you said free but we can be generous. Future 3rd?

Windsor has struggled tonight. It’s really hard to get touches when you are young and the team is getting pantsed. If anyone needed reminding

And so they didn’t want pick 1? What?

Because Richmond wouldn’t take it. Clubs don’t rate future picks anywhere near as highly as they are on here. The fact we couldn’t offload our F1 for pick 8 last year speaks volumes.

I did write Baker and change. If the change was say pick 30 I’d be happy enough

I wouldn’t be shocked at all if we split our pick. Same as 22, swap pick for 8 and 12(that trade was a little more complaints than just this but you get the picture) send 12 to Tigers for baker plus a bit of change maybe. Could happen

Isn’t Elizabeth the biggest footy Oval in Oz? Seem to remember that stat being bandied about a while back