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Number 42 should never have been retired. Pants was a good player but not worthy of retiring his number. Same with 35 all be it different situation. All numbers should be in play ever year. Shows that no one is bigger then the club.

Have they though? It's been reported they have and reported we will take it but until Collingwoodfc tell me other wise the sky is not falling. And if they do take it the sky is still not falling.

The club didn't say we wouldn't trade with Brisbane. They said we won't keep negotiating with them. If they come back to us with a better deal that we like we will deal with them. But we will not sit at the table and go back and forth. We are doing that with other sides.

I know it's crazy. I'm starting to think let's do this trade and then all the whiners can turn in their membership and fu$k off. But then They'll come back saying s**t like black and white till I die side by side. Only if it meets my arm chair opinion I'm typing on a footy forum though.

Yeah like this idea. Still push the lions for more then pick 4 but in the end we could end up getting a gun player for the next 12 years into the club. Still would love to keep beams but let's make the best of the situation.

You get into informal talks now with Carlton. Beams has told us he wants to go to Brisbane. They have pick 4. We say we want that they say yes. We go to the scum and say we will give you pick 4 for pick 6 and a player say for argument sake Garlett. They say yes. The father son bidding starts no...

Because It's not the school yard. It works for both parties. If you renege it hurts you with future trades with that club. If Carlton agree to it they don't bid and he falls to the second round. They can't renege because they won't get pick 4. The only club that can go back on their word is us...

You get in talks before it starts. If you think clubs wait till the trade period actually starts your kidding yourself. That's why we trade with them they can't bid with a pick they are going to trade to us. And they can't bid with a pick they haven't received from us yet.

Here is an idea. If we think Carlton is the only club that might bid on Moore then why not trade with them. If we get pick 4 for beams trade that to Carlton for their pick 6 and a player. That takes their pick out of the bidding process. We get pick 6 and don't have to use our pick 8 on Moore...

Port should not want to wear it either. If they want to grow as a club and attract more fans from other SANFL sides don't show them they are linked to the Port Adelaide Magpies.

What we need is a preseason that all our key players get through. We seemed to always playing catch up all year. We got a lot of games into young kids and like tonight they seem to run out of legs. If I was to pick one thing from the year it's Witts. Just taking big steps every game. Will be the...

I know why get upset? Witts marking alone has been good enough for me.

We are going to run out of legs here. To many young guys who just aren't there yet. Still showing a bit for the future. Liking what I'm seeing.

Just looking forward to the end of a horrible season. Clubs building to something big in the next few years. Let's kick that off with a big effort tonight. Can't see us winning but just want us to have a crack no matter the score.

Really liked Witts. He didn't take these marks but when he did go for some he had his hands out in front stretched out. When he starts taking them he will take 10 plus a game. Just needs to stick them.

Cause if we finish low enough the sides below us may not bid for Moore if there are better players. The More above us the better. I don't know how good Moore is compared to the other top end talent but there is always a chance a side might bid on him just to screw us and it backfiring with...

Confirm he has done his ACL.

If we do end up with pick 7 it could turn into one of the biggest drafts in our history. I don't know where Moore sits in relation to all the other kids in the draft. But if there are 7 or more much better players there a club may not bid for him. As much as we would love him at the pies I don't...

Think we will win pretty easy in the end. But I think the form we have at the moment we will have to fight for it early. In the end as much as I love Collingwood winning and go mental when we lose I like the road we are on and can see the light at the end of the tunnel. Let's hope tins a short...

I remember it well. I was lucky enough to be playing in the seconds at Collingwood that year(95). The media say Matthews was sacked but it was more of a I don't want to stay from Matthews and we don't want to keep you from the Pies. There was no talk of anyone else apart from shaw taking over...

Would make us a better side so would take him in a heart beat. But would not sell the farm for him. I would take anyone who will make us a better side as long as it's on our terms( price ,player we might have to give away, length of contract). Once the black and White jumper I pulled on they are...

It's our younger players who have just made a basic error in important times. If we can fix that up we are in good shape today.

What we need to do is man the Hoff up when he goes down back. I've watched a lot of power games this year and if sides get a run on he floats down back and just marks everything. Can't let him be alone to long.

Is a Collingwood side so cares whose playing I'm going to be watching. I would like to think I know a bit about footy but who knows. I know I don't know as much ss the people paid down at the club who are in the know. There must be reasons why Kennedy is out this week and he has been sub so...

Sack Pendlebury. Since he has become captain we have gone down hill. Oh please give it a rest.

Like the idea of the thread. Keep doing it every week. Not many to chose from this week. Witts continues to grow each week. Maybe the evidence to show Blair is not the future. Want to forget this game quickly.

We are playing to many kids and have been all year. Injuries have forced our hand but it's killed us. There is no zip in the step of some players which was there first part of the year. Having frost and keffee play as key backs and Langdon play big roles has made it hard. They have done well but...

When they say a midfielder would kick 70 goals if he played forward. If that was the case you'd play him as a forward.

Last night really hurt. But are we overrated or are we just where we are meant to be? I think we have a side that if we played to a very best could match it with most sides but the problem at the moment is we aren't getting anywhere near it. At the start of the year we all had high hopes but...

With the media attention Caf gets I think Ablett will get 10 plus frees.