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As did we. Sadly it turns out our spine ended up being two fractured vertebrae... The reliance on FA didn't exactly turn out as promised. Ultimately I believe you need a combo of both strategies with the balance skewed to where you list is at in terms of balance. But it won't matter if you...

Thanks mate. Any idea what time?

I hope he does TBH. If Gaz and Cunnington can get off, so should Toby.

At this stage he is best suited as a small forward. If we can bolster the midfield sufficiently to allow us to play him accordingly then great. At this stage it appears he isn't doing enough to become an elite mid. He can, but needs to work harder. Ideal scenario is to keep him for sure...

Agree. Regardless of your strategy, you need the right people on place to execute the bloody thing correctly. Back to your point t about being a poor club, had we stayed up like Geelong since 2010 our membership and financial situation would be far better than it is and we wouldn't be a poor club.

I guess you gotta be in it to win it.

You sound like my wife...

I think that's the point though. That last flag was as a result of 8 years of drafting. It's what they've done since to remain competitive. Let's look at Melbourne... Played finals in 2006 and heavily drafted since then. Result? Bulldogs? They hit the draft two years before us in 2011 and...

Tell us what you really think...

I'm tipping you paid a free against him. He challenged you, and you both stood there arguing for 3 hours...

I think we agree that both teams started by drafting and have switched to maintain competitive. Given the way FA has panned out, it was the right way to go. Also, staying competitive helps attract better players. Difference being as I see it... Firstly, they better managed their cap, when we...

Wow really putting your balls on the line with that prediction. What are the chances of a retired player becoming an assistant coach? 😂

Id swear you came from another universe at times... 😂 Mikka treats me mean to keep me keen...

No, not at all. You were correct in your assessment. I was actually agreeing with you. The whole reason why Gresh is in the conversation is covered in the trade thread.

Enjoy a Dick pic and and smile...

Maybe, maybe not...

Alleluia...

Pelican was into "silo" list building which focuses on having enough of each player type. So yep, obsolete as you say.

firstly, I have yet to baptise anyone. Secondly, I would look at adding as much improvement as possible to get us mid table. Once there, it becomes easier to attract quality players. As for draft picks, I'd be looking at the forthcoming talent pool before keeping them. If that doesn't work...

Let's hope so. I rate the kid. But if the opportunity presented itself for a top 10 mid, I'd be seriously looking at it.

You living in a cave? It's not crap. Cheers.

Doing it during compromised drafts didn't help either.

I think of the teams you mentioned, most have built on a successful draft haul to begin with. Had success and deliberately not bottomed out. They have added to their generational core, where as we took the wrong turn in 2012 and jettisoned our better player. That said, our cap mismanagement...

Not if you start playing finals...

Overall yes, but positionwise not so. We all agree we need genuine A grade mids. Trading out a B grader to get an elite mid makes sense to me. Gresh isn't A grade yet.

Are you seriously judging Whitfield only on tonight's game? He's a top 10 player in the comp.

Nice work my nocturnal brother. Crouch is an interesting one as we have pursued him strongly. The key which way the crows are prepared to go with their list. They, like us may see another type as important to needs and we prepared to jettison him for a speedy outside runner. I think.youre...

Here's how it works IMO... Who we trade out depends on the target player and required price to acquire. It's easy to say trade Seb ahead of Gresh. But what if that wasn't enough to deal the deal? In that case you'd be mad not to consider it. Once again depending on their target player. So...

They might do it for Gresh...