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  1. Albert Ross

    Essendon drugs saga: Clearing players and clearing club not the same thing

    Feel free not to start any new threads when the players get cleared :p
  2. Albert Ross

    The new campaign against Dank

    This contradicts his earlier statements that he left everything at Essendon and that Essendon therefore have all the records. Depending on who he is talking to he is prepared to argue either that EFC have all the records, or that he has kept some back because he doesn't trust the AFL/ASADA to...
  3. Albert Ross

    "TB4 wasn't banned" : Dank

    One of the emails is from Bondi Junction Private Hospital. Dank's clinic was in that area too. Anyway ... CELEBRITY plastic surgeon Dr Michael Zacharia, who prescribed human growth hormones to combat ageing, has been found guilty of professional misconduct by the NSW Medical Tribunal. But...
  4. Albert Ross

    "TB4 wasn't banned" : Dank

    You believe that TB4 and/or AOD 1. Have been examined against S2 and not seen to be in that category. You therefore believe that S0 does not apply. or 2. You believe that S0 can be side-stepped by the 'compounding chemist loophole'. Either way you think you are in the clear. You are pushing...
  5. Albert Ross

    "TB4 wasn't banned" : Dank

    Dank must spin the line that the players and Essendon knew what they were receiving and consented. If it can be established that, as EFC seem to be arguing, that he 'switched' the drugs in the syringes he is potentially facing 34 cases of assault.
  6. Albert Ross

    Questions about top-up players

    Mark Harvey has publicly stated that they did not instruct their top-up players on what the game plan was. They briefed the AFL players and top-ups separately. Whether or not the game plan changes or not hardly matters. What does matter is that AFL coaches believe they have intellectual...
  7. Albert Ross

    Coaches supplying ice to players in grassroots footy crisis

    I think you start telling people that a punch-drunk boxer with no science background is brewing meth in a bathtub from pesticide, herbicide, drain cleaner, brake fluid and hyrdochloric acid ... it should give you cause for pause.
  8. Albert Ross

    GWS Adult membership costs $185 for 8 games.

    Swans first year saw home crowds of 15,992. Second year the crowds settled at 12,015 and stayed at about that number for 10 years. In 1994 you got 9814. So between years 2 and 10 there was 2,000 variance between seasons. It was only 95-97 when the crowds shot up to 35,818 and that is pretty...
  9. Albert Ross

    ASADA case against Essendon hanging by a thread (The Age, 1 Nov 14)

    Essendon's 2014 annual report lists $1.2m in grants in both 2013 and 2014 from the Australian Sports Foundation, plus another $700k over the two years from Government Grants. $3.2m over two years at one club. I don't think the AFL is walking away from WADA anytime soon.
  10. Albert Ross

    Mega Thread Questions about the ASADA/ EFC/ players and the legal process/ defences/ liability

    What I don't see how a player can make a case for damages. How can they demonstrate that? This world get nebulous even for far clearer cut claims (like asbestos, smoking etc). A player would have to prove that they have suffered some ill-harm and that that could not be from some other...
  11. Albert Ross

    Player in legal action against the AFL and Essendon - Hal Hunter

    It is because you engaged a convicted career criminal to purchase off-label chemicals and then injected them into your players without informed consent, adequate records or any evidence that you were compliant with any OH+S or anti-doping code. If your paperwork was crap in that it meant that...
  12. Albert Ross

    Why isn't there a player revolt?

    Injecting someone's own blood back into them. No substance being introduced.
  13. Albert Ross

    ASADA case against Essendon hanging by a thread (The Age, 1 Nov 14)

    Letting the investigation run it's course would have seen Essendon competing in the 2013 finals series. This could not be allowed. So in that context, yes, the AFL's actions very clearly worked. The journos already had the story, the ACC report contained enough detail to make it clear that 1...
  14. Albert Ross

    Player in legal action against the AFL and Essendon - Hal Hunter

    But they have maximums as well, $500k maximum and $80k average.
  15. Albert Ross

    Bruce Francis and TV legal dramas or the letter to the Minister for Sport

    All you could tell is that a group of samples didn't look random enough. However that could be because everyone was at the same 21st the night before, or a bug was going through a club, or they had all spent the afternoon getting manicures and spa treatments. It is why Harcout has said the...
  16. Albert Ross

    Player in legal action against the AFL and Essendon - Hal Hunter

    You can pay-off anyone at anytime you like. Hal here is $30k bucks, half for your lawyer and half for you. Drop your case. Sign this bit of paper. 3 weeks time a 2 line statement at the bottom of some article or other saying Hunter has dropped his case. HTB has a thread about how this is...
  17. Albert Ross

    Mega Thread Anti doping Tribunal Hearings - Verdict to be delivered March 31st, 2pm, Docklands. Closed hearing

    Mark Neeld's first year 4 wins - 18 losses = Satan Paul Roos' first year 4 wins - 18 losses = God
  18. Albert Ross

    Why isn't there a player revolt?

    Nope, not in the least. Argued on these boards by BSE for months but simply not true.
  19. Albert Ross

    Bruce Francis and TV legal dramas or the letter to the Minister for Sport

    They can't actually do much with the levels themselves. Your levels vary during the day, whether you are tired, hungry, sick etc. They go up when you exercise and fall when you rest. The test relies on the fact that the body produces a few types of HGH. However the stuff you inject is only...
  20. Albert Ross

    Why isn't there a player revolt?

    The 'loophole' is contended to be this line current approval by any governmental regulatory health authority for human therapeutic use If a compounding chemist is licensed by the government to purchase, compound and sell a substance, has a "governmental regulatory authority" given implied or...
  21. Albert Ross

    Player in legal action against the AFL and Essendon - Hal Hunter

    By June / July when they were begging ASADA for an interim report the AFL had sat through all the interviews and seen most of the evidence. They will have had their own off-the-record chats with journos and people in the know. What the AFL knew was that Essendon could not be allowed to...
  22. Albert Ross

    Player in legal action against the AFL and Essendon - Hal Hunter

    I bow to your actual knowledge, but I remain cynical. When Grocon gets fined $350k for actually killing 3 people I will see Workcover as a wet lettuce. Particularly when Hunter will not be able to demonstrate any actual harm. Failure to keep and produce records may well produce a fine for...
  23. Albert Ross

    Coaches supplying ice to players in grassroots footy crisis

    Talking about a hypothetical for which there is actually an answer. Athletes are tested when they are in the Registered Testing Pool. There are formulas for that stuff. So someone who was at school, but competing in national sports (eg a gymnast) would be eligible. As things stand every...
  24. Albert Ross

    WADA boss to "review" entire essendon-AFL investigation

    AFL has already introduced a no-needle clause.
  25. Albert Ross

    Player in legal action against the AFL and Essendon - Hal Hunter

    Unlike the Tribunal, witnesses can be subpoenaed to this case if it goes ahead and placed under oath.
  26. Albert Ross

    Bruce Francis and TV legal dramas or the letter to the Minister for Sport

    It wouldn't show whether or not you had used TB4. It would detect that you had blood and one of the constituent ingredients of blood (TB4), and that you hadn't injected synthetic TB4 in the 30 minutes prior to the sample being taken. It is rather like submitting a blood test for alcohol taken...
  27. Albert Ross

    Player in legal action against the AFL and Essendon - Hal Hunter

    The maximum payment under a Common law claim for personal injury is about $500k, but the average closer to $80k ... and that is for people who are seriously incapacitated not simply trying to make a pain and suffering case on a hypothetical. And the league and EFC will have insurance for...
  28. Albert Ross

    Questions about top-up players

    because it happens in the off-season, 6-months before the new season, and not in-season with a player who has been briefed on the game plan for the new year?
  29. Albert Ross

    ASADA case against Essendon hanging by a thread (The Age, 1 Nov 14)

    I speculated at the time that the person knowing Steve Connolly's career in music and connection to Rohan might themselves have had an extensive involvement in Australian music at the same time.
  30. Albert Ross

    Player in legal action against the AFL and Essendon - Hal Hunter

    Considering that Hunter hasn't actually gotten around to suing yet (still seeking records) and that personally I am still scratching my head as to what his action might be ... we might be jumping the gun a bit on tales of clubs going broke. If he is suing around OH+S stuff he is unlikely to win...
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