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Bulldogs could keep first and possibly get the pick before Croft but risky. 2 firsts not worth to them what the points are so suspect they get GC 1st. If that happened we could still have a go at there first - as long as we add points GC would have it on the table. May even do it and keep...

3 of the 4 are rookies but a long way from elite - hoping a couple may be good enough to contribute but not seeing stars. There are a couple about - Larkey and Lewis are great late picks - maybe Miochek but other than that can think of a A grade KPF taken below about 20 in years.

Hard to find a diamond in the rough KPF but plenty of them end up very good defenders. Could Buller be the missing KPD? Will need to be fitter but has a lot of attributes. Don’t mind Barrass idea but if Naughton was available at $1m I couldn’t sign fast enough

We could give them our first for Barrass and a third rounder. We could then give our 2 second and 2 third rounder’s to Gold Coast for their first which they can’t use as the Walter bid will come before it. We take best kid at 5-8 and match Cleary and possibly May or Cabor with late picks. If...

Reckon they would trade him for a HBF?

I think history may say most likely get them now and delist in 3-4 years. Get the odd ruck that looks a high pick and goes top 20 and justifies it but don’t think the u 18 ruck has much better success in 20’s, 40’s or as overages. If the rate Barnett it does make list look more balanced but my (...

That is close to a win:win as I have seen. If Twomey has the top 10 right we get Busslinger and Carlton probably still get Hollands. We swap the second first for a Hail Mary but possibly still take the same left field pick anyway.

Don’t really think Bell, Melican or COR did anything wrong - there just not good enough - not sure McLean and Wicks are either. Most teams have a few they have to play - hope some of the kids come on so we limit it but we are we lack depth and a KPD

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Could do worse than letting them all go and using picks after everyone else is finished. With list sizes dropping there may be 40-50 picks and I guess a lot from SA and WA kids. Take a few young Victorians that could have developed this year but didn’t get chance and we may get lucky. if...

Isaac Wareham is 24 Dec and looks a likely later pick. Good size, Vic Country so less gone home and looks pretty quick. No idea if he can play but apart from that slight issue he looks good.

That will be good for there compo pick when we get Daniher as a FA

They could match on Green but still need to pay for him - if it came at 5 or 6 there late picks wouldn't be enough. I my maths and understanding is right they would need to use some of their 2020 first

That is not that stupid. I'd keep the GWS 2020 second - 6 and 25 is enough. Next year seconds will help us if bids come on the academy kids after our first. Risk if we don't have enough points we have to use 2021 first. I reckon Daniher a 2019, 2020 and 2021 first, Gulden and Campbell + some...

I find it odd that there is no mention of inside mids or KPD or Ruck. I like Daniher (if price is only a bit over) and Atkins, Taylor OK but don't seem to fit need. Is it possible they think Naismith back and some time for kids and we are OK?

If Daniher had a long term contract 5 and 9 may be OK but we can keep them and get him for nothing next year - if he is back to best could cost $ but not picks. Risk is he changes his mind but we reduce the risk he never gets fit. I like him so would offer 9 (maybe 5) and if they so no we add...

Reckon that is probably it. He seems happy to move but maybe also OK to stay. Assume Essendon are saying we will trade but only for something good and I hope we are saying we will trade if we get a fair deal or happy to wait a year. If it is chance he stays he really can't say anything.

Port would just laugh at that

I agree with almost all of that - it does highlight the gap that Jones will leave - we are short of pace in the middle. I want to think Hayward will be able to do it, or Bennell but long shots. Naismith is the one I am not sure on - as great a competitor as Sinclair is I can't help thinking some...

If it is a chance he has no choice but stay quiet as if the trade can't be done (and if they want 4/5 + what we get for Papley I hope it doesn't) he could be at Essendon with everyone saying he wanted out. May need to be able to say it was all crap - even though nobody would believe it.

Would love to think we could get ready made ruck, kpd, a grade mids and Daniher but doubt we have the $. I think we have been pretty tight on cap for a while and guess they would have already budgeted in the cash for the retirees to just keep what we have. Could get Daniher and maybe one other...

That is fair but being out of contract means we will get unders - next years 2nd would be my guess - maybe player but not sure anyone we want is possible as they have similar issues to us. Carlisle would fill a need but too old for our group and seems like a dickhead, Acres if he can play in the...

At his best Carlisle would be exactly what we need but pretty much also what St Kilda need so if they are pushing him must be a few issues. Would only take him on the cheap.

We need class in the midfield but so does everyone so you either pay big $ or grow your own - don't think we have the $ so draft well and keep fingers crossed on some of the good kids to keep developing I cant see a scenario where we trade and draft well enough to be a contender next year...

I like the ide of Daniher but why not wait a year see if he comes back from injury and take him for nothing next year.

If Carlton ask about Papley I would suggest Weitering - they would say no but that is about the only way I can think of being OK losing him