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Worth bearing in mind a lot of these guys grew after being drafted. Walker was drafted at 190 and Curnow at 191.

The same pattern of behaviour under Fagan. There's no ruthless edge, won't bury bad opposition, won't put away good opposition. We play our game in the last we win comfortably, instead we have a result that comes about because of learned helplessness.

Round 2, 2013. That's the last time a team had fewer disposals than we did yesterday (excl 2020 obviously). That match was a 148 point loss to Melbourne to an Essendon team that went on to not win a final. As disappointing as some of the efforts from our forwards and backs were yesterday they...

It really irks me that through all of this Melbourne aren't losing anyone. How on earth is a team based in the same city as eight other clubs able to hold together their list considering they have the same salary cap as everyone else. It's not like outside of Pearce and Harris they are getting...

Late to the party but I have full faith in Andrews taking on the role. I love Lachie and Hugh as players and men but there's more to being a captain or leader than performance onfield. As an aside for those that are concerned about Harris being a defender taking on the role. Between 07 and 18...

Late to the party but Rayner isn't playing defence come season proper. I'm Victorian so granted I haven't seen him live as much as some of our Queensland brethren, but his defensive running has always been very much below par. He's one of my favourite players to watch around the ball, but even...

Anyone who loses lean muscle mass is not going to be stronger or even retain the same strength, that is physically impossible. I dare say Lyons wasn't running around at a high body fat percentage, so most of any weight he loses is going to come in the form of muscle. It's certainly not uncommon...

There seems to be a few dogs posters on their board trying out for the 2024 Paris games. The amount of mental gymnastics going on while trying to comprehend the Lobb and Dunkley posturing is astounding.

I wonder if they'll boo him next year.

Maybe I'm misremembering, but the Dogs supporters seem a lot more vitriolic than the Crows or Dockers supporters when we've dealt with them.

I'm pretty worried that we won't get Dunkley now after that ultimatum.

Mugavin's biggest challenge is going to be spending his half of the million dollars his dog won on Saturday.

It's worth talking to him for sure, but it would also be negligent to pick him up. He's made no attempt to change the people and voices around him. He's still managed by his family and behaving the same as he was in the early days of his career.

It's pretty funny because the score involvement argument is also demonstrably false. He sits outside of the top 100 for average involvements and is only eighth best for us. Both of which are career highs this year.

If Neale goes, god I hope we get Aish as steak knives. It would be such a beautiful thing to see the prodigal son return.

Melbourne supporters really have a thing against getting out in force to support their club.

I wish our side had a few more liabilities...

There is a certain irony in posting on a public forum unprompted that you're keeping your mouth shut.

For what it's worth he had a good game on the weekend kicking 3 goals and getting involved in the play a lot more than he has been. I think he's an option that we could bring in next year and have him impacting about 90% of what McStay is currently. We've got a much better forward setup and...

You'd think all things being equal that he'd be moving on a deal similar to what we are offering McStay in terms of dollars and more importantly years.

I hope everyone's got their hard hats on, because there's currently a mountain being constructed out of a molehill.

Gardiner doesn't have the neurons to be a good AFL footballer.

The Ashcroft situation is just a media click bait dream. They did the same thing with Daicos last year. Even if he was deadset on playing for a big Melbourne club he'll nominate us and he'd be foolish not to. There's nothing better to raise your stocks than playing for a contender. The people...

10 best 22 and 9 (minus Hippy) left playing for us on the weekend. When you really think about it that is quite the turnover to the best 22 in a four year period. It marks a considerable difference to our 01 and 04 grand final sides (albeit much more successful) where you had 19 players that...

Reading through the corporate doublespeak, I'm very confident he'll come here. Disregarding the main suggestion from him (I'm undecided) which the soft-heartedness of should assuage our more reactionary members. His hero is Joel Selwood, a man that achieved his success at a club that was...

Beveridge's rant wouldn't look out of place with some of the best of bigfooty. It was truly "chef's kiss".

I can't see this story being leaked without at least some contact between Neale/his manager and Freo.That being the case it can be assumed that Freo want him in some capacity at least. Pure speculation on my part but I wouldn't be surprised if there was some real pressure to perform next year...

Feels dirty saying it but I wish razor Ray was umpiring. At least he'd have the balls to pay it.

If you take it that the standard of the players in the broader AFL competition has remained consistent over the professional era. The only conclusion that can be formed about a player that is an All Australian (along with making the squad on a separate occasion) with a top 10 finish in the...