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You'd expect something else would come our way if 12 is offered

Yeah spot on... if he was genuinely happy and wanted to stay, why would he say that he still wanted a trade to get done this period. It serves to no-one's benefit unless he actually does want to move

Pick 1-4 in 2018 for Cameron and pick 14-18 in 2018? Thats crazy talk

Good in theory... lots of clubs trying to trade up without success though... I guess Saints are our only option?

He'd definitely add tackling and pace, and I'm cool with us adding those attributes... but we can't pay overs for it... happy to wait if we have to

I'll take words from Cameron's mouth over your 'insider' at the club

Think the Lions have been pretty open and honest throughout. Stated that we would explore trade options, and if a deal could be done that was good for Josh and the Lions we'd get it done. Both Josh and the club have said that they are ok with Schache returning to the Lions. If clubs aren't...

Believe everything Jarman says? Cameron and Colin Young both said yesterday that Charlie is still keen to leave

I'd question that 'fact'... Cameron was interviewed at Perth airport last night and said he still wants to go

And the third rounder we give to the Crows for Cameron in 12 months

Wilson? He's from GWS

I shouldn't like grammar trolling, but this was a pretty good one-two punch

God dammit... muted the NBA for nothing

Schache and 20 for 40 and Cameron? Wow... that is a long way off

House needs to be knocked down? We'll see... he's only been in the AFL for two years. Could absolutely be a bust, could even walk away from footy... but we don't know that yet. It's probably in the Lions best interest to see what happens rather than accept a low pick in a poor draft.

Its more like a house auction where no-one got close to the reserve, so the house will be taken off the market, some work put into it, and will be back on the market in 12-24 months

I think Watts is a good fit at Port. Think he'll play a similar role to what Tom Lynch does at the Crows

I propose that we change the name of the Q-Clash to the Pineapple Grapple

Sit tight my friend, there is something brewing. Crows are backed into a corner a bit. Won't agree to a Cameron trade until they can say someone is coming in for fear of sending their supporter base into meltdown. Much easier to sell the 'Cameron got us Gibbs' story than 'Cameron got us pick 20...

You've got 4 first round picks this season and next, and can get more currency if you deal Cameron... getting Francis is easy

Seems his value has already dropped significantly. And as such, it's probably not in Brisbane's best interests to move him on. I'd love to see him turn it around at Brissy too, would love to see a high pick work out

Flustered? I'm pretty happy with trade week as long as we don't overpay for Cameron. If that means we miss him this year, so be it.

We can give you 20 instead of 18 if that evens out the Gibbs deal

He's got 3 years to run on his contract, is from Queensland, an All-Australian and 3-time best and fairest... but yeah, straight swap for Cameron... good one

Different situations though, Gibbs couldn't go to Adelaide in the PSD if the Crows didn't get the deal done, and Gibbs wasn't as adamant about getting out as Cameron I'm confident this deal gets done. Crows just won't do it until someone is coming in, so it is more palatable for their supporters

Nowhere have Brisbane said they don't want Schache. Several times during the trade period, Noble has stated that Brisbane would be rapt to keep him. Most Brisbane supporters think 17 is well under, and then you tried to upgrade you 15 to 12 as well? Then you get upset when we call you out on...

Is the hold up on Charlie Cameron to the Lions a PR exercise for the Crows? If the Crows take pick 20 now, it looks like they caved, and after losing Lever and not attracting any talent in, it would look like a disaster. However, if the Crows are securing the Gibbs trade in the background, and...

Bullies used to be keen, but I think they've gone cold. Freo maybe?

It's not your presence that upset us, it's the fact that you come to our board, with a proposed trade that completely fleeces Brisbane and then try and defend why you think it's fair... that might fly on the Richmond board, but not here

You don't have the currency to get 12 + Schache + 42ish