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    Agree with you on the first point and he lost all credibility at that stage. Disagree with you on the second point because the best kinds of specialists - scientific or otherwise - explain technical information in ways that non-specialists can understand it. What you have with this tool is him...
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    Haha, just keep babbling on and deflecting, never staying on topic. Stop pretending you're an expert - not that anyone's making any decisions on the basis of your 'analysis'. Leave the real stuff to the real experts like the Group of Eight scientific experts - those guys are like multiple...
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    Let's stick to the facts - you have tried to ridicule an expert panel full of scientists from the best research universities in Australia who were asked by the Chief Medical Officer to convene and prepare recommendations which were considered by the AHPPC. It has since been revealed that the Vic...
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    It doesn't matter what you or I think, the Group of Eight universities - our highest ranked and best universities - determined which of its experts should work on the advisory panel to address Covid-19. Are you trying to suggest that 1/ the Group of Eight universities don't know who its own...
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    Are you labelling Australia's emminent scientific experts in immunology, virology and other relevant fields - the people convened by our best universities to provide advice to government Gandolf's Council?
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    Haha - you continue to be a major source of entertainment. There's not one expert qualified to advise or make decisions here on this board about this situation. Not you, not anyone. Most of us hope that the political leaders take the advice of the actual experts - the ones on expert...
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    By all means you are absolutely entitled to your view. And OK, the paper was weighed up and considered and then rejected by some in the National Cabinet. It's no secret that the Vic Chief Medical Officer disagrees with Brendan Murphy - he's come out and said he's always supported stronger...
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    The Communicable Disease Network of Australia and the Australian Health Protection Principal Committee are providing advice to the Chief Medical Officers and the National Cabinet. Forget the AMA or any other associations, they don't have the specific expertise. Last week, Brendan Murphy asked...
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    It's one of my important entertainment sources in these house bound days though. Good old Snake told us that the politicians would and should do what the scientific experts told them to. But now Trump has said he wants to ignore the experts and open the US back up by Easter. Snake says he...
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    No mate, the majority of experts from the best universities in this country - who know a lot more than anyone on this board or any politician from either side - have had their advice dismissed. That's concerning to many and should be concerning to anyone who doesn't want politicians to override...
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    Yeah well leaving politics and conspiracy theories aside - especially given it was also reported in the Channel 9 owned Fairfax publications - the Group of Eight Universities Expert Panel advice was to go hard, go now. And the rumblings are that this view is held by many in the other expert...
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    Last week there were rumblings that the experts weren't in agreement and that is starting to come out. That makes it difficult for whoever is in government to choose the right path because as you say, the rest of us aren't experts.
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    No mate, the Group of Eight Advisory Group wrote to the National Cabinet on Monday advising that it supported a rapid and immediate lock down. That was the majority view with some supporting a moderate approach...
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    And here's the 22 member Group of Eight expert panel whose majority advised the National Cabinet "to go hard and go now". This was rejected and apparently at odds with the majority in the Communicable Disease Network of Australia and the Australian Health Protection Principal Committee...
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    Autopsy Autopsy vs St Kilda

    Spot on - if we'd kept fumbling and falling over in the second half and therefore kept allowing St Kilda to pressure, we would've continued to hack it forward/kick long. Instead being clean inside gave us the time and space to use the footy and hit targets - short and long and build confidence...
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    Autopsy Autopsy vs St Kilda

    Shaw at half time - "if we're clean we'll win the game". And we were after fumbling our way through the first half. Nothing to do with changing the game plan.
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    I look at it differently, especially the Second Amendment - the right of people to keep and bear arms. You have a society whose school children and other citizens are not free from the ongoing threat of being sprayed with bullets. I'd also refer to something like the Democracy Index as a...
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    Hmmm, we're not exactly talking about locking up people for expressing their political views here in Australia. We're talking about policing and fining stupid tools who want to rebel against a collective effort to slow down the spread of this virus. Big difference.
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    Both sides have thrown in plenty of ambit claims. This should be debated and negotiated over, even if it takes a week.
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    True but we rely on the US for our national security.
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    The Democrats are opposing the current package because they think the Republicans are favouring the bail out of corporates too heavily - Republican 'trickle down" approach instead of guaranteeing regular ongoing payments to people. Democrats want to see less corporate welfare and more citizen...
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    Governments could actually get a ton of road and other transport construction and maintenance done with the ghost town situation everywhere - give people jobs with protective breathing masks etc.
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    The problem we're having with this is that unlike, say doing 120km in 80km zone, there's a chance of being caught and punished. We keep intorducing new measures without any policing and there's a significant percentage of adults who either don't care, or who actually have regressed to being 14...
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    Mad Monday
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    Hopefully Dale Kickett handles this one.
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    Dan Suan - Garvan Institute immunologist is an example and the MOs have been inundated with corro. Absolutely real science isn't about consensus and right now that's playing out. The Australian Health Protection Principals Committee is the main advisory body but like all expert committees its...
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    The Australian Health Protection Principals Committee comprises the Commonwealth and state medical practitioners and probably receives working papers/input from experts? It advises the National Cabinet and the Commonwealth Government. At the moment it continues to advise that schools remain...
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    Your approach (and the UK's) of a limited shut down seems sensible. Apparently workers and remaining teachers therewill have first dibs in the morning at supermarkets, followed by the vulnerable and then the general public which also is a good idea. Imagine you're the Minister and set to roll...
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    The scientific advisors - more specifically the immunologists, virologists and medical practitioners don't agree on the best way forward at the moment. Understandably so. How do you suggest these differences be reconciled?
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