What is the www?
It is where a free kick or mark is obtained by a defensive flanker on an exit kick and the player holds onto the ball and waits for all his mates to stream down the ground to the positions they should have been occupying , the player often then waits for a short lead-up and then...
The start of the 2022 season and our first real chance to see how the most recent rule changes rule changes are achieving their objective (or not).
The verbal disagreement with an umpire. The move is towards zero tolerance, and so far the penalties have been quite appropriate. A case in point...
Perhaps I went too early on calling the STAND rule redundant* (*my original comment given the way the Coaches seem to have circumvented the intention of the rule up to the start of August).
It is now clear from the Giants demolition of the CATS and the TIGERS that one Coach has worked on a...
Agree, the STAND rule has become redundant because coaches have moved on to mis-use the pause time to flood/stream players back to their published position. The STAND-in -the-naughty-spot rule is now redundant.
Agree, the ruck-nomination rule has to go also.
But congestion will remain until...
An excellent description of the issue to solved...i.e. CONGESTION....Well done footyfan 1978.
So we need to turn our attention to how to solve this problem. You have chosen a structural look to be imposed on regular play. And you refer to the previously successful solution to the centre bounce...
hi sprockets
Player may have always paused to find an option, but it is not true that we have always been prepared to wait for the half-forwards to run 70 yards from where they have 'flooded' into the back-line and return to their correct position in the forward line, and then to double back 20...
LBR posts in #450
My comments in blue font.
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I disagree.
I guess it comes down to how individuals want the game to look like.
That's why the AFL has no hope of 'fixing' the game. If you ask 5 people what the game should look like, you'll...
What I am saying is that assessing options is OK BUT the umpire has to look at all aspects of what is occurring.
Let me give an example from last night; all operated by Connor Rozee.
Step 1 ... he gets a mark or a free kick
Step 2 .... he walks back 5 steps from the defender and at the same time...
Watching the Roos v Bombers game and it is clear that the Roos have decided on the team plan to utilize the STAND rule by making very short kicks to a certain target. Just watched 15 kicks in a row to move 50 metres. No risk involved because the payer with the ball pauses www until the...
You are entitled to disagree.
So what I am going to give is a list of pauses that are entirely unjustified. They are unjustified because it is impossible to call these first two examples 'reasonable time' for delay.
Listen to the commentator say "...he has taken a nice mark and is back off...
Good morning LBR.
The evidence in my post shows that rapid fire 'play on' calls were not occurring if the player just takes a few paces back and then does not move off the line. He is allowed to pause for far too long. When he has paused for a while the opportunity to be creative has...
Bombers v Adelaide at the speed-dome; this should be good.
Bombers score a point early.
Adelaide kick in to a short target
STAND call
Pause, to wait for next target
Kick to short target and umpire calls, NOT 15. Kick backwards to goal square.
Kick to short target in other pocket.
Pause, to...
I agree that fairness should be an underling principle. But it is nebulous concept in terms of what equals what and is thus fair.
The 'pause' may have been allowed for many years but my argument is that it is time to recognize that the pause allows time for congested floods to move to a...
Good morning LBR.
You think there has been an interpretation change, and this has brought super strictness suddenly into the game?
I invite you to look at this video
and you will see a game decided by a player who shuffled one short step. This incident occurred in 2012.
Strictness has...
The STAND rule in operation shows great disrespect to the guy on the mark. He is made to STAND like some kid sent to the naughty corner. Which then gives the ball player the option of picking a target at 45 degrees to the line of play to the goals. This is a useful innovation. It stopped the man...
hi LBR
I agree that there has been a rapid fire 'play on' calls.
However, this was a necessary corollary to the strictness now applied to the man on the mark The guy on the mark has got to STAND or else a 50 metre penalty applies. If we apply strictness to the guy on the mark then surely...
G'day sprockets, thanks for your contribution.
Scoreline at half time in the game Pies v Saints is 1.5.11 to 4.5.29.
Is this the scoring level you are happy watching? I think it is pathetic, and a waste of the expanses of the MCG.
Last year/decade the majority of us were unhappy with the low...
Dear Mr. Steve Hocking,
Congratulations on your STAND innovation introduced at the start of the year. The first few rounds of 2021 had open and high scoring football and we all had high hopes this would persist for the whole year.
But the high scoring has evaporated in recent weeks (as at 29...
After 10 rounds (2021) the game delays are increasing. Chip kick after chip kick. Each time the potential for a www delay as the player with the ball waits for all the half -forwards to run from the half back line to where they should be, the half-forward line.
Just take the Carlton West Coast...
Congratulations to the AFL for introducing the 2021 rule changes that have led to more open play.
By paper media reports the objective was to stamp out the pre-2021 misbehaviour around the manning of the mark, in that it was team tactic by the offenders to reduce the amount of time available...
2019 now at round 6; time for an update on what we have seen.
1. Low scoring on average in spite the 6-6-6 rule. We know from previous analysis in this thread that frequent stoppages suit the assistant-coach community...gives them a job and a reason for being. So, no surprise that that have...
The agenda in the footy news is crowding. I discussed this in September2015, in this thread, so it is not new even though it is in the news.
Change is required. That is what ALL the dogs are barking now.
To fix the problem there are two theoretical debates you can indulge in.
The first is "What...
So, what has the JLT series revealed?
First, quite a few teams have decided to copy the Richmond model of pressure acts in the forward line. But the Tigers achieved this by 3 years of recruiting just that type of small player. There have not been many pressuring small forwards over the years...
End of year REVIEW time again.
All the talk is about premiership hangovers. Doggies had one. Will Tigers have one.
Many commentators refer to the new element of PRESSURE.
The Doggies had it is 2016.
The Tigers had to have it in 2017 because they had a small forward line.
Is PRESSURE the new...
2017 starts with some terrific games, some rule changes (3rd man up and out-of-bounds) and UMPIRES prepared to ping for holding the ball and holding the man after the release of the ball. How long did it last? 4 rounds in my view, and then a return to HUNCHING. Hunching is when the player...
End of season time again, and time for a review of whether the stoppage coaches have prevailed.
Just a reminder that in post #6 in this thread we identified 'stoppage coaches as <They are the coaches who have promoted structure, predictability, conservatism, and consequential congestion with...
2005 ended with the AFL taking the route over the long break to tweak the rules about manning the mark. Was this to be the solution to the problem identified in the above two posts; namely, some coaches/asst coaches bring the game into disrepute by preferring stoppages and preferring structured...
Now that we have watched the two PRELIM finals it is time to review the recommendation made in my previous post. One from the 'blamed' coaches list was involved in the PRELIMs; this was Ross Lyon who coaches FREO. As is his usual coaching plan the FREO team moved the ball slowly, and sought to...
Who is to blame?
In the AFL there has been much discussion this season with the substantial changes appearing in the game. Change that is judged by many non-attending as undesirable change.
What was a game of anarchy and few rules has become a congested rolling scrum imitating the worst...
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