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Despite the fact I think LDU is overrated and limited by foot he is one of few half decent players they've got approaching his prime. If he leaves, I'm not sure that North are realistically viable as a competitive AFL club. They can't attract free agents and talent they draft leave at the...

Did I spy Weddle take and grab deep in the F50 against the Roos? Does anyone know if he lined up there or did he just drift forward on the breeze?

Nths transition defence is the worst I've seen.

Both teams desperate for a morale boosting win. If we can't beat this North team this place could burn to the ground.

Showing really promising signs. Boy we need to get lucky here. I'm keeping a lid on. No Jinxing. *he did play North today.

Terrific response from Josh. Only * is who it was against. But you can only play who you play.

North beating Gold Coast in the the last round is the biggest LOLnorth of all time.

So, what's Harley worth now? He's not even fit! "hate to say I told you soooooo......alright."

Wouldn't surprise me at all if he puts on a show this week. He would be licking his lips looking at the roos backmen.

Could be Gunners last hurrah. If he can't get a kick against that North backline it's time. What a player he was.

You have to laugh. The people who whinge about Jack not getting frees would have also complained about Selwood getting all those frees.

We dont need many, if any, more good average role players. We have them in abundance. We need stars. Either they need to develope from our youngsters, be drafted or traded in. The only question about Lukosius is his heart. He has more talent in his little finger than most of our list. Probably...

I hope you are right FP. But if we lose this week it's not going to be a long week but a very long year. Fingers crossed we smash the beggars and calm the sceptics.

What set him apart for me was his chasing and tackling. No other FF of that era had his defensive, team first mentality. No coincidence that none have his collection of GF medallions either. The true Hawthorn way.

Would be great if its our kids that come to the fore this week and are strong contributors in the win. We are playing a team at a similar age and level.

So we shouldn't try? We should just except our likely fate of mediocrity for the foreseeable future and forget about trying to lure elite talent?

No you are right, but it generated star talent . The key to it all. Would we have pick Bud and Rough if the club was set on Thompson, Rawlings and Croad up forward.

Getting creative might mean multiple 1sts for JUH or sam taylor

I don't want to trade Lewis. But we are in a deep hole if he fails to live up to his potential. OUR club traded Croad, Thompson, Rawlings, Hay etc. When it decided they would not take us to where we aspire to be. The top. We are in desperate need of a next generation of star KPPs. Without...

So Finn to Sheezle? Remarkable young player.

He's got a ways to go. I hope he wil be a handy player once the team is up and about but he is no game changer. Same for McKenzie. Handy players but we really need game changers ie Rozee+Butters, Rowell+Anderson. If Newk and Day can get to that level the other two should be handy side kicks...

Sadly for Chol he had his worst game for us against a former coach he would have liked to prove wrong. Playing our back pocket at Full Forward didn't work a second time. Desperate times but we were too short up forward. Suns picked us off with ease. (Ramsden not quite there). The Weddle to CHF...

We are just not very good. I think most are finallly coming to this conclusion through constant reinforcement. Facts are, if Lewis, Newk, Day and Sis are playing poorly (or not at all) and the kids are yet to come on, we are pushing S#$t up hill.

Tough watching but not sure we should have expected anything different. Very young team, devoid of A grade experienced talent. Once the pies started playing competently it was all over. Meek giving it his all. Ramsden showing something.

We gave him a decent go at it. Not hitting targets regularly enough proved his death knell.

Fair point. More so our injury list and lack of form from key players.

This would be a bigger upset than last time we upset them. The glimmer of hope is we are their bogie team, for some unknown reason.

He was carrying injury before today. Could be an injury created by playing through injury. "He's not injury prone" ha , ha. Those were the days.

Sadly predictable result. Same senior players way down on form- Lewis, Newk, Sis, Impey, Bruest... Same players performing to expectations Worps, Chol, Frost, Massimo... We won't win many games with this being the case. We needed our best players to take a step forward for us to move up the...

With Day injured, Newk and Reeves badly out of form we are rolling out the weakest midfield in the comp. The Coolaiders can shout me down all they want.