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For me after 20odd years in a relationship, I now find it awkward to deal with folk in a typical singles environment. If I'm to be truthfull it freaks me out I was never one to be awkward or bothered by such situations, but now I must admit I'd rather be run over by a herd of elephants, so I...

Geez selwood has burned heaps tonight

Tigers all at sea. Dont seem to know their arse from their elbow currently, credit to the baggers.

Frosty was definitely a bright spot. I've always been of the opinion that when a teams on the re-build good honest hard-working footballers like ya Frostys, or Dan howes, blokes that don't take a backwards step are of the utmost importance. They set a certain standard that is required to win...

Good luck to him in the holy colours. They can bring the best out in some and hopefully he is one such player.

Swings and roundabouts George. Itll all turn around in time.

To be honest I reckon the tiges will bring an intensity next week that Geelong haven't experienced the past 2 weeks which ill be interested to see how the handle, might just break em.

Daniel doesn't have much mongrel at all does he? Not like Cyril in the slightest.

Not even the tiniest iota of intensity in anything the pies have done tonight. Not very finals like at all.

Only really remember the back end of his career and he was amazing then. Would have been something else at his absolute peak

This is how I feel everytime I dont win the lotto.

Vandenberg kind of captaincy in thst real success won't come till after his tenure/ retirement?

Get what point your making, but to be fair the kids aren't the only ones going ordinary today in the contested ball stakes. There have been plenty of examples of senior players getting to easily shifted off the ball today. Smacks of a full mental checkout unfortunately.

Seriously why would a player tackle any more. There have been some great tackles laid by both sides in this game that have resulted in incorrect disposal, f***** play on.

Lovely stuff. All the best young fella.

Yeah nah great stuff, really great stuff.

Too many not prepared to run both ways, too many not prepared to put their body on the line, too many just going through the motions. You wanna make it feel better by calling it tanking go right ahead, to me it's just losing in the worst possible way.

Ill take the bait just cos. Yep I want the lads to win.

I like him

I can cop an honourable loss with the current crop. This is not one, this is chock full of pure laziness.

Did the guys in the centre bother coming out at for the 3rd. Total disgrace of an effort.

Really happy with the effort and intensity, couldnt buy a bounce which is often the way when things aren't working out. And that was the most pissweak umpiring display I've seen in a long time. All thst port convinced me of is they are the great pretenders

Ya can't just choose to pay that as holding the ball all n of a sudden when you dont pay the others just like it ( even though I agree with the decision )

Ya know we can hate all we like , truth is James hird was a helluva footballer and if willy is half as good then its a big win. * which is basically what you said, ive had a couple... forgive me.

2020 hey ? What an absolute overturned s**t truck of a year. All the best to James in his surgery and recovery.

Can't fault the effort in the end. There were plenty of examples of taking the game on, just lacked that little bit of polish and execution. Will day is a competitive beast and never gives up, as others mentioned earlier he is a natural footballer. He is a pleasure to watch.

Constantly on their heels at every contest , would hate to be a forward in this side, conversely would hate to be kicking into this stationary non leading forward line.

Hoping for a more aggressive and positive style hawks tonight regardless of the ins, outs and the result. Be nice to see chad get more midfield minutes and quicker ball movement into a leading/ presenting forward line.

Was just thinking that. Get talked up all the time, but damn they can play some garbage footy.

Great qtr. Work rate went through the roof and with it came reward.