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This was what people said about me Jenkins at the crows too. But the thing is they all count the same in the score board. I'd be delighted to have a forward with a knack for getting Joe the goose goals. It's the one type of shot that you have no doubt at all will turn into 6 points. If Logan...

We should try for rioli out of Richmond. Guy is one of the absolute best pressure forwards going round and would be a really valuable cog.

What a name!

No disagreement from me Fritsch is one of the most effective forwards in the competition. It's hrad to say what he does particularly well other than kick accurately but he wins his team games again and again.

Hes the anti Hayward in many ways. Really good on the scoreboard but struggles to do much else.

Stunned to hear the versatile forward happy to sacrifice his attacking game to make defensive contributions and was fastest to 50 goals since Buddy has got a decent contract. Surely "maybe having the ball isn't better than not having it" man is right and Hayward is actually not a good player.

I'm really liking his contribution but I think he's a bit almost. Like he's making a few mistakes an quite pulling off some of what he's trying. His attack on the football is really good but there are these faults with his game that I think he'd not have made towards the end of last year.

Campbell's form isn't where his is right now. I think it would between those two and I'm glad I don't have to make that decision. Any others in the discussion? I suspect it will be Jordon to go.

His form this year is looking like he's back to his best.

That's a bit tough on Neale who is clearly the most influential player on a pretty decent team.

He's often started really strong. Why I feel optimistic is we have the depth to give him a rest rather than play him through niggles and see his form decline a touch come finals.

Yes

We may never lose a game of football again.

If we get to the bye 2 2 or better we're laughing. No shame to losing to Melbourne or Collingwood given the injuries, as long as we make them earn it. I'm looking forward to seeing how the young midfielders go.

This seems a great example of an emotional reaction to a miss (blowing a game) producing a bit of a unsober assessment (weak minded seems a reach for someone you've only watched play football on tv).

He's the fastest player to 50 goals since Buddy. That's more than a flash for medium forward. It's a remarkably good start to a career. I'd really like Hayward to improve his set shot kicks and go from 25ish to 35ish goals a season. Can't help but think that 80% of the frustration fans feel...

Sure, but people on big footy probably have less insight and familiarity with people within the footy industry than say, professional footballers.

Thanks Bedford great input. I'm not a coach, you don't need to know much about footy to know that having the ball is better than not having it!

Do you think that our ineffective possessions are better for us than the opposition getting the ball? Like if we continue with the silly dice analogy and give the opposition better skills than us and now have two die what happens? Let's say 1 in 6 is good for us, 2 result in a neutral position...

Okay so the logic of this is we turn it over more often than not when we get it, so if we get it more we turn it over more and will spend less time in the forward half? Firstly I don't by that given a clean possession the swans midfielder is less likely to get it going our way than the...

Okay then explain to my how our midfield getting first hand on the ball more won't result in us getting the ball going our way more often, even with the general skill level staying even.

If a given player is only going to do something with it once out of every 5 times they get it then getting it to them 10 times rather than 5 is a 100% output improvement. I think you're just trying to sound smart and iconoclastic on this one rather than thinking about it.

Gus's game against the lions was fantastic. We were beaten by a better te that night but it was the first sign that our form was going to turn. Gus's inclusion genuinely went some way to getting us to finals. Incredible effort for the young fella. The "but who is he replacing" talk is sensible...

I reckon you could still just call it 20 in any position and it would still be interesting. Part of why smaller players can play more games earlier on is that they can fit in in more places around the field. Mostly it's that they don't have the same sort of size/strength match ups. It's tough...

You'd hope anyone drafted as a ruck would know they aren't about to play 22 games a season any time soon. I can't really think of any rucks playing a full season as number 1 under the age of 22 or 23. As an aside it would be interesting to know what the average age of the first 20 game season...

Ceiling doesn't refer to how good someone is projected to be. It's one factor amongst several that draft journalists use to help people who haven't seen someone play imagine what sort of player someone is. An average ceiling but really good consistency could be used to describe someone like...

This is a bit of a misunderstanding of what people are trying to describe when they say ceiling. There are plenty of players who go very late who could be anything. They have incredible athletic traits or disposal etc but haven't come on physically, or have never put things together etc. Amartey...

Leppistch has been an assistant coach at 4 of last 7 premiership teams. That's incredible.

??? The CIA probably did kill Kennedy I'm not sure what that has to do with the referendum.

Still can't believe that the CIA just killed Kennedy like that.