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Rewatched Gus and Gawny Lingers ep and remembered them talking about Clarry having shoulder/groin issues; is that stuff chronic? If not is there any chance we can wrap Clarry in cotton wool for a bit for his long term health? I recall something about how his feet need to be taped ridiculously...

Just about cried reading this piece in The Age about Goody Just so happy we won a flag with a guy like Goody, the stuff he preaches, how calm he is; you have to say its rubbed off on the players.

Yep, think Rupert Wills for the Magpies after 2018(obv didn't actually win the flag but came in and cemented a spot for a year playing very hard around the footy); Eagles probably lacked this type of player actually, Redden had a form slump in 2019 and he provided a lot of the grunt for that...

Why? Our list is already young as is; Trac Lever Fritta Lingers Petty Spargs Gussy Clarry Bowey Jacko Kozzy Riv Sparrow Jordon Nibbler all under 26. That's a nucleus right there; I could see us being without a good leading tall forward in the future with Brown, TMac exiting their primes but even...

JT must see something that's going to be there at 17 sheesh we're so young I would've happily turned a blind eye to the draft for a few years, excited to see what he cooks up. Have to hope he sees a key forward right?

Sparrow, Vin, Clarry are the get it at the coalface types and Trac can do that too...didn't view inside grunt midfielder as an area of need at all, but AFL calibre players always a good thing, thought our depth was a bit light at times last year. Better not get a game over Sparrow barring some...

Remember that; they must've miscounted earlier or Blacky paid someone at Championship Data

Gotta break even on centre clearance surely. Also in general play; and Dogs some very good ball users but on the whole you'd probably think to properly beat Melbourne's press/zone with ball movement you need a team that relies less on like dynamic handball chains? Dees just not a bad side...

One of 13 voters for the Dees in this thread now 😤😤😤

Lingers in a nutshell. Probably can find much better examples of his defensive running across the season, but still looking at where Lingers is at the top of the screen shows you a bit of his workrate. 30 seconds before this clip starts he's at half forward.

Talk about finals footy: Sparrow HFF. Kozzie in the pocket. Nibbler HFF. Salem/Riv down back, whatever position they play. Gussy on one wing. Harmesy wherever he is also. Feels like whilst we finally have covered all bases in terms of roles/skills needed for the team, we're still generally a...

What a year he's had. His composure last night; our backs(both sides' backs really) felt the pressure but when Nibbler got it he was taking his time, evading tackles, using it well...really good effort by him. Rotated through the middle at times too, which is pretty handy for a guy who makes...

Featuring slick Jacko and composed Nibbler * me we've got a squad by Pythagoras theorem this would've covered around 55 surely? Went as long as it went wide, PERFECT

Shoutout TMac but decent effort this off one step

Was always stocky/nuggety/plays above his size, whatever you want to call it, but man his 1 on 1 work also...

Yeah did Bolton(at least best 22 Bolton) intersect w Higgins/Butler? Thought he broke out around 19'-ish, don't remember all 3 playing in the same side, did Graham play in the same side as when 2 of Bolton/Higgins/Butler were playing also?

That is mindboggling. We could really have a dynasty here...

What can you say, echo Maysie's words, most composed 7 gamer seen in a while. That little chip to Gus in the 3rd...my god.

Couldn't have imagined that he'd round out the rest of his game this well, thought he was a guaranteed bull in the china shop a la SPP for his whole career. I don't disagree but at some point this kid could be one of the upper grade midfielders but probably won't really ever have the...

Petty/Rivers/Bowey all under 22...the best defense in the league with 3 guys that young is insane. Across the whole team you add in Kozzie/Jacko/Sparrow. Are flag teams normally this young? Richmond in 17' had Graham/Castagna tbf but...what a group we have. Riv just has some attributes that...

Really good player we got here, he's worked on his game a lot, rounding out his skillset. Kicks it a mile too, not just the goal but the diagonal to Ben Brown in the 4th, covered a ridiculous amount. For his sake a bit of a shame Trac/Clarry ahead and the 3rd guy around them needs to be...

Wonder if part of it was Geelong's stoppage D being quite poor, the movement of our mids in tandem was elite but Vin's quick decision making/vision is usually quite limited and yet he was successfully making quick decisions all game long...never seen that from Vin, ever. Usually he needs to...

I don't think its been clearly beaten that frequently(usually I feel the end-of-game stats have us as at least neutral) but it definitely hasn't been on top as much as it should've, felt like today was one of very few times in the last 2 years Clarry/Trac/Vin have legitimately clicked. when Vin...

3 Maxy 3 Trac 3 Vin 2 Brown 1 Lever

How do Swans fans rate his clearance and overall inside midfield ability? I've always felt its genuinely good, not elite but a B+/A-, but the numbers don't back that up. Career high 4.7 Clearances a game; though that could be underselling his impact because he plays as a tagger/defensive minded...

Yeah so I wasn't really sure about that one, but I think his workrate and positioning has been better. 4.3 tackles is a career high too. Still a lot of work to be done

I've stayed sane waiting for Frank Ocean to release new music, I can wait for TK to post some new content, is what I'm telling myself as I scroll through the last 2 pages of this thread On a serious note, what are some good resources for learning more about the game? Ideally with some film...

Clarry's tackle-evasion/breaking? Not sure on this one but maybe Trac's defensive work? Feels like its at least improved from earlier years

Full back ridiculously stacked but wouldn't have been mad if Keath made it over May personally. I think May's ball use is a bit overrated, hits some nice ones down the tee but the effectiveness of those long kick-ins is overrated, so hard to weight the ball properly over that distance and May...

Curious, what are your thoughts on Jakey Lever as a 1 on 1 defender? I think he's pretty solid 1 on 1 and pretty versatile but I don't think he's comparable 1 on 1 to the genuine good key talls in the comp...that said Cody Atkinson released a metric last year IIRC that had Lever grading out as...