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I like your thinking here. Subtlety is key. Like this.

Play Kala. A grade has 4 teams so you're guaranteed finals.

Is that meant to be a fusion of Melbourne and Cockburn?

Suban could also play 10 years. What's your point? Your obsession with tall KPPs is well documented on these boards. Now you're saying we should give up our prime KPD for a third forward with the attributes that you've said, many times over, will not provide the structure we need for an...

I think you're ignoring that the reason supporters would be very upset is that either of those trades would be robbing the team of a genuine need to add a want. Adelaide lose third/fourth tall? Not such a big deal. Freo lose their 10-year fullback? Big deal.

I hear ya. Really want him to be the man but right now he Cox up his kicks too much.

How does Luke Ryan have two first names but neither are Mark?

Agreed. Load up on best available forwards or attacking mids.

Don't question my rhyme abi-lity.

I think you'll find it's neither a far flung hope nor a locked-in reality, just a possibility. That rhymed, unintentionally.

While I agree this is true, I remember a lot of people claiming the Brad Hill trade was a joke and that he only looked good at Hawthorn because he was surrounded by jets. Nek minnit, he's putting up career best numbers as one of our best players. Probably different given the position and the...

Agree. I don't know why but whenever I've been contemplating the Mitch trade the last few weeks, I've evaluated his worth based on this. Like how Kersten would attract Hamling, which made Kersten more valuable.

See waytogo's post a few pages back: Trade for Mitch this year, I'm guessing a downgrade scenario or future picks will be involved. Jeremy will be a free agent end of next year I think, so he comes for free.

He can be co-pilot.

I really think this will happen. I have absolutely nothing to back that up, just the impression I got from Mitch in his interview and articles on his dad - tight-knit family that loves Freo. Don't know if it's just me, but I get the feeling that certain people in and around the club are sick of...

Going by his interview I'd say he's more than prepared to test the calf. He's being held back by Ross & Co. Must be hard stifling your instincts.

I agree, Ryan is fast becoming my favourite player down back. Trust levels are sky high. And our kick ins... the difference now to what they were the last few years is stark. I've almost forgotton that our ONLY strategy was wait then bomb it to a pack.

Someone posted a vid of Sutty racking up 30 odd touches and a couple of goals playing mid for East Perth or something. Was strangely therapeutic watching him glide around the ground in full lope mode. And seeing him play mid today gently pulling his kicks at the last minute and evading tackles...

Loved that game, ball movement a big improvement, very patient. Looked good used with the run and carry. Kersten's first half was great, fyfe and mundy are bulls.

Anyone just hear Bruce read the headlines for The Weekend West? Docker requests trade back to Victoria?

If it's too late then we may as well forfeit (or just get everyone to drink on a six day break). Three things could happen moving forward (hopefully all 3): 1) one of our current talls works out (tabs apeness, strnadica etc) 2) we trade in a star / free agent in 2 years time (think hogan or...

It's interesting seeing the difference in how people watch a rebuild unfold. I sit in a different seat to my old man, and at the end of the game (that i mostly laughed through) we met up to debrief and had one of those say-the-opposite-thing-at-the-same-time moments. Something along the lines...

Yes, I'm glad someone else has noticed this!! Always wondered why Sandi doesn't try ruck tap to a crumber rather than attempt to mark?

Nope, not too early. Star for sure. And rising. Remember that star status has many levels. He's yet to reach superstar. Then there's megastar. Then the elusive supamegastar.

Yep, he's surprised me with the range of tools he's developed. Tough, contested beast, with quick hands, a burst of speed, dare, awareness, and my favourite, that torso twist to weave out of traffic.:handok:

When I was watching Nyhuis I saw composure, neat skills, strength and maybe even a burst of speed. Great defender traits. Also, Luke Ryan. Has he ever executed a kick that was anything other than exquisite? Reminds me of a Shill-Suckling hybrid for some reason.

Is Blakely our most consistent young gun? Tucker and Weller show flashes of premium footy but Connor is super impressive all game. Kicking is low and sharp.

I tend to agree with this. If he has a few things to work on, let him find out if he can do it at afl level. Logue wasn't ready but he got his shot, and while not tearing it up, he's shown a bit. If Griffin doesn't go down, Darcy doesn't get the call up, and we know how that story is playing...

I see what you're saying but I'd counter the johnsons and mundys slowing down with the rise of our 3rd to 4th years and emergence of our 2nd to 3rds. I'm talking Blakely, Weller, Darcy, Hughes, Balic, Logue, A.Pearce, Tucker, Nyhuis, Ryan etc. There is a lot of talent poised to take the reigns...

But but but... sandi, spurr and mundy (maybe even johnson) will be playing 2018. It's 2019 they'll likely be gone. Are you saying we stay bottom six with them around, then rise to mid table once they retire? I think the team's 2017 end of season trip will be to Kathmandu. Cos we're going ladder...